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Author Topic: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?  (Read 2089 times)

Offline Louis Earl

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My guess is that the FBI made her do it by threatening to send her back to Russia.

Online Sean Kneringer

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Re: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2026, 05:25:41 PM »
Couldn't live with the shame.

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2026, 06:05:21 PM »
From my readings it was the Secret Service who told Marina to keep away from the Paines not the FBI. Remember, they were the one in charge of protecting Marina and the children. Maybe FBI agents said so too?

Priscilla McMillan goes over the estrangement in "Marina and Lee" (excerpt below). Robert Oswald was very upset with the Paines, thought they were dishonest - he believed they lied about not knowing Oswald's rifle was in their garage - and he told Marina these feelings about them, that she shouldn't trust them. Marguerite didn't like them either.

Ruth discusses the question in the very good Mallon book.



The Walker incident apparently angered Marina. She blamed Ruth for it.


« Last Edit: July 12, 2026, 02:07:12 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2026, 08:50:53 PM »
Here is Ruth's view (from "Mrs. Paine's Garage").



Offline Karl Kinaski

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Re: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2026, 01:24:22 PM »
Marguerite Oswald who was with Marina at the Paines on the evening of 22.11.1963 could't stand, that Ruth Pain was lying to the press about her son and took Marina to the Adolphus with the help of TIME LIFE reporters. The is when the frictions started. Right on day one when Oswald was still alive.

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Online Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2026, 04:25:39 PM »
My guess is that the FBI made her do it by threatening to send her back to Russia.

In her later years, Marina came to distrust Ruth Paine and came to believe that Ruth helped manipulate Oswald.

Online Tommy Shanks

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Re: Why did Marina cut off contact with Ruth Paine so abruptly?
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2026, 06:55:33 PM »
In her later years, Marina came to distrust Ruth Paine and came to believe that Ruth helped manipulate Oswald.

Who cares? You're not about to start suggesting that Ruth Paine was involved in the assassination conspiracy, are you?