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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #63 on: Yesterday at 08:53:43 PM »

The Davidson enhancement of 2016 showed Stanton's face on Prayer Man and ended the issue...The Prayer Man people solved that problem by getting rogue moderator James Gordon to ban me on BS site rules violations he refused to substantiate and then focused on the strawman of calling for the original films...After all, by calling for the original films they were seeking the truth and not just using cheap tactics to avoid addressing the Davidson enhancement...In 2024 the 6th Floor Museum released its 1st generation copy of Darnell that, because it was a film to film copy, showed the clearly-visible female dress neckline of Sarah Stanton on Prayer Man...This second discovery was corroborating, reinforcing proof that Prayer Man was Stanton...The Prayer Man people had successfully fragmented the research community in to the Deep Politics Forum, The Education Forum, and the successor to ROKC known as "Jacks"...Each of these was controlled by favoring moderators who kept the Prayer Man issue from ever gaining traction...It was when the research community was forced to give an opinion on the dress neckline that Larsen implemented his strategic lie and claimed the dress neckline was forged...Larsen was forced in to this because the only other alternative was admitting the grandiose Education Forum was a gang of hacks who had their asses handed to them by a guy they ridiculed and banned...The clique that did that has now doubled down and are posting instructions on how to put people on ignore...

A credible website addresses the forgery claim and takes a second look at it with the best researchers and best evidence...An uncredible website draws back to its core clique and posts threads on how to put people on ignore...That thread is read-only and the comments are locked...And it originates from "The Moderation Team"...Ben Cole puts hope in this new administration...

Why is any of this an issue? None of it sheds any light on the JFKA. It is just a bunch of screwballs trying to make something out of nothing.

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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #64 on: Yesterday at 09:35:30 PM »
Why is any of this an issue? None of it sheds any light on the JFKA. It is just a bunch of screwballs trying to make something out of nothing.

They require a grand "Deep State" / "Administrative State" conspiracy for psychological reasons.

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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #65 on: Yesterday at 10:37:14 PM »

The Davidson enhancement of 2016 showed Stanton's face on Prayer Man and ended the issue...The Prayer Man people solved that problem by getting rogue moderator James Gordon to ban me on BS site rules violations he refused to substantiate and then focused on the strawman of calling for the original films...After all, by calling for the original films they were seeking the truth and not just using cheap tactics to avoid addressing the Davidson enhancement...In 2024 the 6th Floor Museum released its 1st generation copy of Darnell that, because it was a film to film copy, showed the clearly-visible female dress neckline of Sarah Stanton on Prayer Man...This second discovery was corroborating, reinforcing proof that Prayer Man was Stanton...The Prayer Man people had successfully fragmented the research community in to the Deep Politics Forum, The Education Forum, and the successor to ROKC known as "Jacks"...Each of these was controlled by favoring moderators who kept the Prayer Man issue from ever gaining traction...It was when the research community was forced to give an opinion on the dress neckline that Larsen implemented his strategic lie and claimed the dress neckline was forged...Larsen was forced in to this because the only other alternative was admitting the grandiose Education Forum was a gang of hacks who had their asses handed to them by a guy they ridiculed and banned...The clique that did that has now doubled down and are posting instructions on how to put people on ignore...

A credible website addresses the forgery claim and takes a second look at it with the best researchers and best evidence...An uncredible website draws back to its core clique and posts threads on how to put people on ignore...That thread is read-only and the comments are locked...And it originates from "The Moderation Team"...Ben Cole puts hope in this new administration...

   In 2024 The Sixth Floor DID NOT Release their ENTIRE 1st Generation Copy of the Darnell Film. The Sixth Floor did Not provide any footage that Darnell filmed after he filmed the motorcade going down Elm St. This missing footage includes the train yard segment revealing the Bogus DPD Motorcycle Cop walking along the string of passenger train cars and then his going toward/down the Elm St Extension. The Sixth Floor also did Not release the short Darnell filmed segment showing the area between the short wall running down from Zapruder and the Picket Fence. That I know of, Darnell is the ONLY photog that captured that Black Dog Man/Badge Man area immediately after the assassination. The Sixth Floor has been sitting on this Darnell footage for 2 yrs now.   

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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #66 on: Yesterday at 11:23:19 PM »
The print of Altgens 6 in Groden's book is a good-quality print.

If there's no damage in the area identified by Weldon and many others, why were two subsequent reproductions of Altgens 6 altered to obscure that area, one by a diagonal line and the other by bleaching out the area altogether? Why alter the photo in the very area identified as showing a hole and/or damage if there's nothing there?

Well, again, I can't force you to admit seeing what you don't want to admit seeing. It's been some time, but I saw high-quality enlargements of the suspect area in Altgens 6, and I could see damage there. A long list of other researchers can see damage there, but you say you don't see it.
MTG: The print of Altgens 6 in Groden's book is a good-quality print.

Photographs reproduced in books are never particularly good, especially for the kinds of analysis that Weldon was attempting. Too many compromises need to be made to transfer between media and conform to the requirements of mass production. What we now have available on the internet is far superior to what you can find in TKOAP or Trask's POTP.
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If there's no damage in the area identified by Weldon and many others, why were two subsequent reproductions of Altgens 6 altered to obscure that area, one by a diagonal line and the other by bleaching out the area altogether? Why alter the photo in the very area identified as showing a hole and/or damage if there's nothing there?

Or, whatever happened to two copies had nothing to do with the alleged "damage" and Weldon (via you) tried using the highly-scientific method known throughout the industry as "insinuation." 


Well, again, I can't force you to admit seeing what you don't want to admit seeing {...} A long list of other researchers can see damage there, but you say you don't see it. 

I see that the "spiral nebula" is something that is behind the rearview mirror. Anyone who says different is suffering from a bad case of wishful thinking.


It's been some time, but I saw high-quality enlargements of the suspect area in Altgens 6, and I could see damage there.

You need to have your eyes examined. If that doesn't fix the problem, then examine your own head.

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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #67 on: Today at 12:34:56 AM »


  So, if a shot was fired through the windshield and hit JFK in the throat Prior to Altgens 6, where did this shot originate from? I have not seen any Proof that the alleged "hole" in the windshield even lines up with JFK at any point prior to Altgens 6. And then there's the issue of the alleged shot missing SA Greer, SA Kellerman, and Gov Connally. This is more Ed Forum  BS:

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Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #68 on: Today at 04:00:13 PM »
Why is any of this an issue? None of it sheds any light on the JFKA. It is just a bunch of screwballs trying to make something out of nothing.

Because under The Education Forum and Jim DiEugenio the CT community has taken a serious wrong turn and ran the credibility of JFK research on to the rocks via Greg Parker and Bart Kamp...This single issue and the corruption around it has railroaded and paralyzed good JFK research and made the JFK internet a trench warfare battle zone of no progress and confusion...It isn't the Lone Nutters who are doing this it is that idiot Jim DiEugenio and his tendency towards generating gangs and cliques of favorites over good research...Jim is in it for the ego satisfaction and he has a whole internet of sycophants that take that bargain and help him along with it...That group just succeeded in putting a prime DiEugenio ass-kisser, Andrew Iler, in dictatorial control of The Education Forum and its "Moderator Team" (All DiEugenio suck-ups)...

The reason it is an issue is because the good evidence DiEugenio has helped railroad out of view with his corrupted methods is clearly establishing that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination...The Education Forum makes itself the welcomed home of unlimited bullsh*t that fills its annals with years of detailed fodder yet carefully stays away from the important necessary conclusions this evidence leads to...And they do it under the implied premise that they are the ultimate researchers with the best methods - all kept safe by wicked censorship and banning controlled by a core group of favored members (The Moderator Team)...They have the balls to suggest this assumption of superior status to the degree of giving instruction on how to put people on ignore...The whole time protecting the bogus Prayer Man theory with some of the worst corruption and dishonesty in research history and allowing no counter evidence...All headed off by false accusations of rules violations...

Why is it an issue?...Because the Prayer Man subject has successfully prevented a solving of the conspiracy single handedly...And it has been done by a creep researcher, Bart Kamp, who is protected from fair playing field adversarial debate by a group of dominating hacks, bullies, frauds, and suck ups who see the Prayer Man theory as a short route to insider status in the research community...

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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #69 on: Today at 04:31:36 PM »

The reason it is an issue is because the good evidence DiEugenio has helped railroad out of view with his corrupted methods is clearly establishing that Oswald was in the 2nd Floor Lunch Room during the assassination.

Just what evidence would that be that establishes Oswald was in the 2nd floor lunchroom during the assassination?

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Re: Why Altgens 6 Refutes the Lone-Gunman Theory
« Reply #69 on: Today at 04:31:36 PM »