Quoting Common Sense

[David Von Pein]

Reprinted below are some excerpts from my website linked above.

Feel free to add your own comments and JFKA observations, but don't forget to include the Common Sense with each comment. That's very important in this thread....

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"Given the alignment of the two limo victims at the time of the shooting, plus the location of the only known shooter in Dealey Plaza, plus the fact that no bullets were found in JFK's body at all, plus the fact that a whole bullet which positively came out of the gun that was found on the sixth floor of the TSBD was found inside the hospital where the two victims were taken, plus the fact that the two injured limo victims reacted to an external stimulus at precisely the same moment in time on the Zapruder Film....I wonder how anyone in 2022 (or any other year or millennium) can be so blind as to not accept the Single-Bullet Theory as fact." -- David Von Pein [DVP]; September 28, 2022

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"If there is a suspicious fire, the [conspiracy-minded] kooks would investigate the firemen who respond, and ignore the guy with the wicked grin that smells of gasoline." -- Bud; November 22, 2007




[More to come....]

[David Von Pein]

"The argument that Oswald was the tool of a high-level conspiracy does seem plausible, until one tries to fit it into the context these theorists always leave out -- the personality and background of Lee Harvey Oswald, the individual." -- Jean Davison; Page 25 of "Oswald's Game"

[David Von Pein]

"Conspiracy theorists can pretend all the evidence is fake if they want to. But, in my opinion, the evidence against Oswald could not possibly exist in the abundant quantities it exists in if Lee Oswald had been an innocent patsy.

In addition, Oswald's own actions are telling us a lot. Do CTers think Oswald's own actions and movements are "fake" too? Like when he twice lied to Buell Frazier about "curtain rods". And when he left the TSBD within minutes of JFK's shooting. And when he shot Officer Tippit within 45 minutes of JFK's murder. And when he fought like mad with the cops in the theater, while uttering things that drip with his guilt.

Those are actions I'm supposed to either ignore...or interpret as things that add up to Lee Harvey Oswald's INNOCENCE? Is that right? Come now. Nobody could examine Oswald's actions on BOTH November 21st and 22nd and come to the conclusion that Oswald was merely being used as a fall guy. Oswald's actions incriminate OSWALD, and no one else." -- DVP; February/March 2015

[John Corbett]

Here is my Common Sense take on the issue.

The single best argument against Oswald being part of a conspiracy is that he got his job at the TSBD well before anyone knew a presidential motorcade would be going right past that building in late November. Whether one postulates Oswald was a shooter as part of a conspiracy or patsy chosen to take the fall, the plotters couldn't have known that the job at the TSBD would give Oswald a the perfect perch to shoot JFK from. Even if they knew JFK was coming to Dallas, they would have to have specific knowledge that there would be a motorcade and that it would pass directly in front of the TSBD.

The CTs might counter that the conspirators just took advantage of the situation when they discovered their shooter/patsy was at a workplace overlooking the parade route. The question then becomes, why would they have selected Oswald for either role if they didn't know in advance of the golden opportunity his employment at the TSBD would present. Why would these conspirators select an average USMC marksman to do the biggest contract killing in American history? It makes no sense. It is also a bit far-fetched to think they had already contracted with Oswald to do the shooting and just got lucky when the motorcade route was announced. What are the odds of that happening.

Then the CTs might ask, didn't Oswald just get lucky when he learned of the motorcade route. Yes he did, and if Oswald was the only mentally unbalanced person in the country with a rifle and a propensity to commit such a heinous act, it would have been a remarkably bad piece of luck. But the fact is there might have been dozens of such people in the country, maybe hundreds, who would have done what Oswald did if given the opportunity. Given the fact we had a President who traveled all over the country and had a fondness for riding in slow moving motorcades in an open top car, it's not at all surprising that he eventually might cross paths with one of them. The key word here is "opportunity". This was a crime of opportunity. Oswald won the assassin's lottery when JFK's motorcade was routed right past his workplace and he took full advantage. Maybe if another site for the luncheon had been selected we would have never heard of Lee Harvey Oswald. Maybe it would have been another assassin in another city at another time who was dealt such an opportunity or maybe it would never have happened at all. Life can be that random. Who could have guessed that the choice for the site of the luncheon would have such devastating consequences, but that is what happened.

[David Von Pein]

Thanks for your post, John. 

[David Von Pein]

"If you were put in charge of framing your lone patsy on 11/22/63, would you have placed three gunmen all throughout Dealey Plaza? Or would you have fired from ONLY the Sniper's Nest in the TSBD using only your patsy's gun?

And would you allow your patsy to wander around in the lunchroom at 12:30, where he's quite likely to be seen by people AT LUNCHTIME?

What if Oswald had called in sick on November 22nd? What then? Would the plotters have re-routed the motorcade to have it pass by Ruth Paine's home in Irving?" -- DVP; April 2007

[John Corbett]

"If you were put in charge of framing your lone patsy on 11/22/63, would you have placed three gunmen all throughout Dealey Plaza? Or would you have fired from ONLY the Sniper's Nest in the TSBD using only your patsy's gun?

And would you allow your patsy to wander around in the lunchroom at 12:30, where he's quite likely to be seen by people AT LUNCHTIME?

What if Oswald had called in sick on November 22nd? What then? Would the plotters have re-routed the motorcade to have it pass by Ruth Paine's home in Irving?" -- DVP; April 2007

The odds of Oswald being selected to be the triggerman for the JFKA seem quite remote for reason already stated. To suggest that he was chosen to be the patsy and that he would have been such a cooperative patsy is even more far fetched. Why would Oswald have been willing to smuggle his rifle into work. I think he could put 2 and 2 together to figure out what a bad idea that would be. If one wants to believe that the plotters stole Oswald's rifle, how did they get Oswald to bring a long brown paper bag into work. Are we to believe that the bag found next to the sniper's nest with Oswald's prints on it just happened to be long enough to hold the disassembled rifle. Why were there no curtain rods in the empty paper bag found by the sniper's nest.

What if Oswald had decided to join the rest of the TSBD employees on the front steps of the TSBD. According to Ralph Cinque, that's what he did. Suppose he had returned to work and answered the roll call. Even if they found his rifle, he would have had employees ready to tell the police, "Lee was with us when the shots were fired".

If Oswald was a patsy, he had to be the most cooperative patsy ever selected to take the fall for a crime committed by somebody else. He did everything imaginable that day to make himself look guilty. This is where the CTs will tell us his "handlers" made him do all those things that incriminated him which is laughable. It reminds me of Flip Wilson's Geraldine character saying, "The devil made me do it".