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Online Tom Scully

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Re: Lance Payette speaks and How this would play out in court!
« Reply #42 on: Yesterday at 11:10:54 PM »
My foray into factoid-checking began because Harvey and Lee said that bank executive Robert Wilmouth had stated that the PMO should have bank stamps, to wit:

The $21.45 money order, according to Wilmouth, should have been stamped and dated by three different banking institutions. But not a single bank endorsement stamp or transaction date appears on either the front or back side of the postal money order. It is clear that postal money order No. 2,202,130,462 was never deposited or cashed by any bank or financial institution.

NOTE: Bank Vice-President Robert Wilmouth was never called to testify before the Commission. Wilmouth most certainly would have pointed out that the money order was never deposited to any financial institution due to a lack of bank endorsement stamps.


This sounds pretty specific and definitive, yes? In my innocence, I simply wondered what Wilmouth had said. I wasn't expecting to find any problem. The statements in H&L were supported only by a footnote to the FBI interview of Wilmouth. I discovered to my astonishment that Wilmouth had said NOTHING WHATSOEVER about bank stamps! You can see the FBI report here: https://harveyandlee.net/Mail_Order_Rifle/Mail_Order_Rifle.html. (Now, incredibly, the H&L site says the interview report was fabricated!)

I raised this problem repeatedly at the Ed Forum and asked what the source of the "bank stamps" claim actually was. As you can read, the silence was deafening. This is me back in 2017:

John Armstrong started all the silliness about the Klein's PMO not having the required bank endorsements.  In Harvey and Lee, he cited to a bank official at the First National Bank of Chicago (named Wilmouth, as I recall) who supposedly said this.  I exposed that the citations were FICTITIOUS.  The bank official never said anything about bank endorsements.  Armstrong's fiction became CT "gospel" and has been repeated throughout the conspiracy literature, apparently without any of these "experts" bothering to check Armstrong's footnotes as I did.  When I pointed out that Armstrong's citations were fictitious, which you can easily confirm for yourself, the non-response was deafening.

NO ONE EVER DID attempt to address this. They just closed ranks and declared me a newbie nuisance. I even went to the John Armstrong Collection at Baylor University to no avail. TO THIS DAY, I still don't know where the "bank stamps" nonsense originated!

What an eye-opener this all was! I realized that supposed luminaries like David Josephs and Sandy Larsen were fundamentally crazy and cared nothing at all about accuracy or truth, only about preserving their nutty CT narrative. All because innocent newbie me simply had enough diligence to check one of Armstrong's footnotes. I subsequently saw this scenario play out again and again - some nugget of conspiracy gospel had its origin in little more than thin air but was then repeated and repeated and repeated in the CT community until you were an infidel if you dared to question it. I have yet to check ONE - not ONE - CT factoid that stood up to scrutiny.

When beliefs driven evidence is in the state there's is in, I can't think of anyone as equally unmoored from the facts to help push the beliefs of DiEugenio, Joseph, & Co.
than this one!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Paulina_Luna
Anna Paulina Luna
....Political positions
2020 presidential election
In June 2022, Luna repeated false claims that the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen, "I believe that President Trump won that election, and I do believe that voter fraud occurred." The previous month, she attended a red carpet event and screening of 2000 Mules, a film that claims to show evidence of widespread electoral fraud in the 2020 election.[58] She authored the 2023 Christian children's book, The Legend of Naranja, which suggests that Biden stole the 2020 election.[59]

Political assassinations
In February 2025, Luna was appointed by Speaker Mike Johnson to lead a House Oversight Task Force on declassification of federal secrets,[60] instigated by president Trump's executive order on "Declassification of Records Concerning the Assassinations of President John F. Kennedy, Senator Robert F. Kennedy, and the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr."[61]  ,,,,

I didn't rush out to view 2000 Mules because the "film maker" behind it is a convicted felon, Dinesh D'Souza, pardoned by a convicted felon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D'Souza

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Mules

So now Congresswoman Luna is "looney tunes," huh? Such juvenile polemic is typical of the drivel that you routinely post here.

FYI, Anna Luna has more credibility in her left pinky finger than you have in your entire body.

"Looney tunes" accurately describes your nutty claim that the West lost the Cold War. That's worse than claiming that John McCain won the 2008 election.
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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Lance Payette speaks and How this would play out in court!
« Reply #43 on: Today at 02:51:49 AM »
My exposure of the Wilmouth fraud did cause that claim to disappear from the H&L site. Now, it was Waldman, VP of Klein's, and DAVID BELIN who should have noticed the absence of the critical bank stamps:

Waldman was a middle age businessman, and VP of Klein's Sporting Goods. David Belin was an attorney, with years of experience in business matters. Either of these men could have examined the front and back side of postal money order 2,202,130,462, looking for a bank stamp that showed the date of deposit. The absence of a dated bank stamp on a check, money order, or bank draft, would cause most business people and bankers to conclude the item was never deposited to a bank or cashed. The fact that Belin did not ask Waldman about a dated bank stamp on the money order is very suspicious, and suggests that Belin intentionally refrained from asking this question. And for a very good reason. If the money order was never deposited, then Kleins would not have shipped C2766 to Oswald. He could not have shot at General Walker. His photo holding the rifle would not have appeared on the cover of Life Magazine. He could not have carried the rifle to the 6th floor of the TSBD. He could not have shot and killed JFK.

https://harveyandlee.net/Mail_Order_Rifle/Mail_Order_Rifle.html

You can't make this stuff up. No, wait - apparently you CAN!  :D