When Was JFK Hit?

[John Corbett]

They based it on the evidence none of which conflicts with the zfilm ie. the evidence that

• JFK was hit by the first shot.

Wrong

• JBC was hit in the back on the second shot after he turned around to look at JFK after the first shot.

Right

• JFK was hit in the head on the third shot.

Right

• The last two shots were closer together.

Wrong

Your batting .500. That's much better than you usually do.

You think the witnesses all had the same hallucinations. Which is more stupid?

No, they had the same misperceptions. Do you think the witnesses who said the shots were evenly spaced and those who said the first two shots were closer togather were hallucinating?

[Andrew Mason]

Wrong  Right  Right  Wrong

Your batting .500. That's much better than you usually do.
No, they had the same misperceptions. Do you think the witnesses who said the shots were evenly spaced and those who said the first two shots were closer togather were hallucinating?

At least my points were supported by evidence.  You just don’t agree with the evidence. Not only is there no evidence of a first missed shot, or that JBC was hit in the back by the same bullet that struck JFK, or that JBC is already wounded in the chest at z226, there is abundant evidence that conflicts with each of those points.

[John Corbett]

At least my points were supported by evidence.  You just don’t agree with the evidence. Not only is there no evidence of a first missed shot, or that JBC was hit in the back by the same bullet that struck JFK, or that JBC is already wounded in the chest at z226, there is abundant evidence that conflicts with each of those points.

I agree with the evidence. I just don't agree with your FUBAR analysis of the evidence. It is comical that anyone could look at the Z-film and conclude JBC was not hit until Z270.

Many/most CTs argue that JBC was hit some time in the mid-Z230s. While I disagree with their assessment, it is reasonable based on JBC's assessment. It ignores JBC's obvious arm flip at Z226 but it recognizes the obvious gyrations JBC went into following the arm flip. Your scenario is just plain cuckoo.

[Andrew Mason]

I agree with the evidence. I just don't agree with your FUBAR analysis of the evidence. It is comical that anyone could look at the Z-film and conclude JBC was not hit until Z270.

Many/most CTs argue that JBC was hit some time in the mid-Z230s. While I disagree with their assessment, it is reasonable based on JBC's assessment. It ignores JBC's obvious arm flip at Z226 but it recognizes the obvious gyrations JBC went into following the arm flip. Your scenario is just plain cuckoo.

Who said JBC did not immediately fall back upon being hit on the second shot but twisted around for several seconds afterward? (answer:no one) Who said he did fall back immediately? (JBC, Powers, Nellie, Greer, Gayle Newman-all, apparently as cuckoo as me).

CTs accept that JBC is reacting by z235 because they want to believe that two shots were fired in a space of 20 seconds or less.  But, according to the 45+ who swore the last two shots were close together, and Altgens, Powers, Nellie, Greer, Hickey, only one shot has occurred at that point.  So the SBT does not rebut the CT scenario: by affirming, despite the evidence, that JBC has received his chest wound by z235, it feeds it.

Funny how cases are solved by key witness evidence. But, in this case, all the witnesses happened to share the same recollections that, co-incidentally, all fit together perfectly but were just imagined. Amazing.

[John Corbett]

Who said JBC did not immediately fall back upon being hit on the second shot but twisted around for several seconds afterward? (answer:no one) Who said he did fall back immediately? (JBC, Powers, Nellie, Greer, Gayle Newman-all, apparently as cuckoo as me).

Why do you need somebody to tell you that. If you would open your eyes, you can see it for yourself.

CTs accept that JBC is reacting by z235 because they want to believe that two shots were fired in a space of 20 seconds or less.  But, according to the 45+ who swore the last two shots were close together, and Altgens, Powers, Nellie, Greer, Hickey, only one shot has occurred at that point.  So the SBT does not rebut the CT scenario: it feeds it.

Another of of your FUBAR conclusions.

[Zeon Mason]

JFK was hit at Z223-224 approximate if we believe what our eyes are seeing when viewing the Z-film.

It’s obvious the 6th floor shooter was making stupid decisions, the primary one being to choose to shoot from high elevation at a moving target rather than a place where JFK was a statuary target standing giving a speech. Charlie Kirk was killed with just one shot from 200 YARDS away by an inexperienced leftwing woke  Kook using a .308 rifle with a scope.

So the 1st shot could be Z224 , the 2nd shot 4.8 secs later at Z313 and the 3rd shot 2-3 secs after that aiming at anything particular because either the shooter was the Marxist Kook Oswald or he was a conspirator who for some reason was compelled to choose to shoot from TSBD in order to set up Oswald.

[John Corbett]

JFK was hit at Z223-224 approximate if we believe what our eyes are seeing when viewing the Z-film.

That' always a good place to start. Amazing how many people skip that step.

It’s obvious the 6th floor shooter was making stupid decisions, the primary one being to choose to shoot from high elevation at a moving target rather than a place where JFK was a statuary target standing giving a speech. Charlie Kirk was killed with just one shot from 200 YARDS away by an inexperienced leftwing woke  Kook using a .308 rifle with a scope.[/quote\\

I wouldn't second guess Oswald given that he succeeded in what he was trying to do, maybe for the first time in his life. I don't think taking the first shot was a stupid decision. True, he had little chance hitting JFK by taking that shot. He had no chance of hitting JFK if he didn't take that shot.

So the 1st shot could be Z224 , the 2nd shot 4.8 secs later at Z313 and the 3rd shot 2-3 secs after that aiming at anything particular because either the shooter was the Marxist Kook Oswald or he was a conspirator who for some reason was compelled to choose to shoot from TSBD in order to set up Oswald.

Oswald started with four rounds in his rifle. If he hadn't scored a kill on his third shot, he still would have been able to take a fourth. He determined that wasn't necessary as he saw JFK fall over to his left with a gaping head wound.