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Offline Steve Barber

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #56 on: July 02, 2026, 03:27:22 AM »
Yes, you have explained it many times and not once has your explanation made any sense.

As soon as I figure out how to post a video on here, as I'm having trouble finding a place I can trust to upload them/it into.

I'm going to post a video showing Governor Connally reacting to being struck in the back, causing his shoulders to jerk up and down twice as the bullet pierces his back.  It's an unmistakable involuntary reaction by Connally that occurs at the same time his face shows a noticeable grimace-all before JFK's face emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.

 I'd like to get my thread back on track here, and this should do it.

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #57 on: July 02, 2026, 04:12:10 AM »
As soon as I figure out how to post a video on here, as I'm having trouble finding a place I can trust to upload them/it into.

I'm going to post a video showing Governor Connally reacting to being struck in the back, causing his shoulders to jerk up and down twice as the bullet pierces his back.  It's an unmistakable involuntary reaction by Connally that occurs at the same time his face shows a noticeable grimace-all before JFK's face emerges from behind the Stemmons sign.

 I'd like to get my thread back on track here, and this should do it.
Just set up your Youtube account and upload. You can get the direct link by “Share” and “Copy link”.  Or you can upload to Google drive and select “Share” “Anyone with the link”.

Offline Steve Barber

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #58 on: July 02, 2026, 02:34:19 PM »
Just set up your Youtube account and upload. You can get the direct link by “Share” and “Copy link”.  Or you can upload to Google drive and select “Share” “Anyone with the link”.

Thanks Andrew.  I'll look into this and post the video as soon as I can.

Offline Steve Barber

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 05:16:53 PM »
I'd forgotten about this video I made a few years ago, showing the up and down movement of Governor Connally's shoulder's as the bullet strikes him in the back. 

I want to point out that it was NOT I who was the first to point this out, but at the time I made the video, I didn't know that David Von Pein is the person who first pointed it out on his magnificent JFK Assassination website.   

My video was published by researcher Jim Hess several years ago. 

I should also point out that the reason the film is played at reverse frame is that it makes it much easier to see this up and down motion of the Governor's shoulders.

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #60 on: Yesterday at 06:24:53 PM »
Even in John Orr's scenario, which has the bullet passing through JFK, nicking the windshield molding and exiting the car, but not hitting JBC, there would have been a bullet whizzing through the car. It appears that Jackie and Kellerman also flinch noticeably in the same direction as JBC at the same time. Can we be certain that JBC's reaction, which is certainly noticeable, is a reaction to being hit? I just tried turning my head several times, and it actually seems quite natural for my one shoulder to rise in the direction I am turning. The faster I turn, the more it seems to do it.

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #61 on: Yesterday at 07:57:08 PM »
Even in John Orr's scenario, which has the bullet passing through JFK, nicking the windshield molding and exiting the car, but not hitting JBC, there would have been a bullet whizzing through the car. It appears that Jackie and Kellerman also flinch noticeably in the same direction as JBC at the same time. Can we be certain that JBC's reaction, which is certainly noticeable, is a reaction to being hit?

We can if we apply common sense.

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #62 on: Yesterday at 08:11:25 PM »
We can if we apply common sense.

I believe that's what we ex-lawyers call a non-responsive answer. The issue is why JBC's shoulder raises abruptly. I noted that both Kellerman and Jackie seem to flinch - admittedly less - in the same direction at the same time. I further noted that when I whip around, my own shoulder raises noticeably. One possibility is that JBC's shoulder raised because he was hit by the same bullet that hit JFK; another possibility is that it was the natural consequence of him whipping his head around. I'm not arguing for one or the other, merely asking the question if we can be certain about the reason for JBC's shoulder movement. The answer is not a matter of common sense. You think it is because you assume the SBT is correct. This is the fallacy of begging (avoiding) the question. If we knew the SBT was correct, Steve's video and this thread would be pointless. This is what I have described before as your tendency to reason backwards: because we know the SBT is correct, it follows that this is why JBC's shoulder raises.