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Online John Corbett

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 11:37:25 PM »
What is being suggested - that this is just the Thorburn reflex from a bullet hitting the cervical spine?

I am aware of the Thorburn reflex but I am totally unqualified to offer an opinion as to whether that is what we see in that footage. The bullet did not hit the spine. It hit near the spine. I have seen similar responses on the football field when I player sustains a severe head injury.

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« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:43:18 AM »
I'm not suggesting anything. 

I am pointing out that President Kennedy never touched his throat like just about everyone claims when they mention his reaction to the first shot.  Clearly, he never went for his throat.  Ever.  His right hand and arm jerk upward, his hand is open, giving the appearance that his hand is covering his mouth, while his arm is splayed upward and folded at the elbow.
 
Too many people watch the Zapruder film at slower than normal speed because too many people post the Zapruder film onto YouTube at a speed slower than 18.3 frames per second and overlook how fast his right comes up in front of his face to mouth level. The left hand is clearly not touching his throat either. as can clearly be seen.

   Which raises the question of why a man shot in the Back, is covering his mouth?

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #9 on: Today at 12:52:12 AM »
I am aware of the Thorburn reflex but I am totally unqualified to offer an opinion as to whether that is what we see in that footage. The bullet did not hit the spine. It hit near the spine. I have seen similar responses on the football field when I player sustains a severe head injury.

    This "head injury" stuff explains much.

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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #10 on: Today at 01:31:28 AM »
I'm not suggesting anything. 

I am pointing out that President Kennedy never touched his throat like just about everyone claims when they mention his reaction to the first shot.  Clearly, he never went for his throat.  Ever.  His right hand and arm jerk upward, his hand is open, giving the appearance that his hand is covering his mouth, while his arm is splayed upward and folded at the elbow.
 
Too many people watch the Zapruder film at slower than normal speed because too many people post the Zapruder film onto YouTube at a speed slower than 18.3 frames per second and overlook how fast his right comes up in front of his face to mouth level. The left hand is clearly not touching his throat either. as can clearly be seen.

Looking at the Altgens photo it appears JFK's mouth is distorted from a shock to his spine and/or nerves.


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Re: JFK Hands Never Go To-Or Toward-His Throat
« Reply #11 on: Today at 06:53:18 AM »
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Thanks for posting, that is interesting. I have been aware for some time that JFK balls his fists more than clutches anything after being shot the first time, but you bring a clarifying perspective.

The more I looked at the frame Z-248 you provided, the more it looks like JFK actually turns and look to his own left towards Jackie. In this same frame Z-248 frame, Gov. JBC can be seen holding onto his Stetson hat, despite, by the SBT-LNT, having been short through the wrist with a large Western Cartridge 6.5 slug. A shot that left a large hole in the radius bone near his wrist, seen in x-rays. 



I may post soon on what Secret Service agent Paul Landis belatedly related.

I have long had reasonable doubts about the SBT-LNT.

Some suspect the shot that apparently strikes JFK ~Z-220 never passed through his body, and cite the finger probe of Dr. Hume to the effect. Hume found only a shallow hole.

If Landis' account is accurate, one explanation is that the first shot to strike JFK was underpowered, and penetrated only marginally, and then fell out onto the back seat of the limo, where is was found by Landis. That is the real CE-399 slug, not the on fund by Tomlinson later.

Just IMHO.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.