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Did the evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex kill JFK?

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Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Karl Kinaski on June 14, 2026, 06:00:22 AM ---Yes. By the old boys IC-joint venture of all country's all over the world that still exists.

A former high-ranking colleague of Angleton(...) quote:
"Jim (angleton) believed that the real exercise of power in and between countries
occurs through networks of leaders. This was the importance of the
liaison unit. It operated outside of the normal channels, which really
irritated people like the State Department at times. A lot of it went
back to relationships formed during and just after World War II. Jim
cultivated these people, whether they were in or out of government."
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For instance: IMO the Covid affaire was a US-China IC joint venture, executed by the the MIC of the US and the MIC of China, with Europe as junior partner. 22.11. 63 was  a SU-US joint venture with several junior partners: Mafia, Israel ...

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Father-figure-requiring James Angleton was duped by a probable KGB mole in the CIA by the name of Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up; he was Deputy Chief of the Office of Security's mole-hunting Security Research Staff and Chief of ITS Research Branch) to such an extent that he may have manipulated Angleton into sending Oswald to Moscow in October 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole" (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA -- the Soviet Russia Division.

Which mole hunt lasted nine years, protected Solie from being uncovered, destroyed the Soviet Russia Division, and drove Angleton nuts.

Ironically, Angleton told true defector KGB Major Anatoly Golitsyn and CIA officers David E. Murphy and Raymond Rocca on 29 June 1964 that Solie's office was the only one in the CIA he wasn't afraid was penetrated by the KGB.

Among other things, in October 1968 Solie "cleared" false-defector-in-place in Geneva in June 1962 / false (or perhaps rogue) physical defector to the U.S. in February 1964, Yuri Nosenko, via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report.

A short time later, Nosenko was generously reimbursed for his troubles, naturalized as a U.S. citizen, and got a good-paying gig at the CIA teaching "counterintelligence" to its and the FBI's new recruits.

John Corbett:
I voted a simple NO. I would have voted an EMPHATIC NO but that wasn't one of the options.

Kevin Balch:
No, but they certainly helped cover it up. As did the Kennedy family. Probably to cover up the Cuban assassination plots and CIA incompetence.

If the MIC was behind the assassination, no Kennedy would have dared run for political office. The MIC could have easily leaked stories about JFK’s marital infidelities or the secret deal with the Soviets to pull US missiles out of Turkey through Mockingbird and it would have damaged JFK’s chances in 1964.

Note that after the assassination, US nuclear strategic warheads peaked in 1965 while the Soviet’s stockpile continued to grow and surpass the US. The Vietnam war was escalated but conducted in a feckless manner, mostly by people selected by JFK. RFK continued to support the war until at least 1966 when it was starting to go south.The “dangerous” Limited Test Ban Treaty remained in place. The MIC concocted and elaborate assassination plot that had to involve dozens, successfully carried it out and successfully covered it up but then still lost ground?

Based on asking “cui bono?” after the assassination, the benefits accrued to those who who would be expected to be behind the Cuba, LBJ or Mossad theories. The sabotage/assassination plots against Cuba stopped and there was no invasion. LBJ gained the presidency and not removed from office due to the corruption investigations. Israel was able to continue its nuclear weapons program unmolested, watchdogs dragged their feet on the NUMEC uranium theft and the Israel escaped RFK/Fulbright attempts to get them registered as a foreign Lobby.

Lance Payette:

--- Quote from: Kevin Balch on June 14, 2026, 06:05:58 PM ---No, but they certainly helped cover it up. As did the Kennedy family. Probably to cover up the Cuban assassination plots and CIA incompetence.
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This was one of my real epiphanies, for which I thank Larry Hancock: The assorted cover-ups all have their own reasons, none of which necessarily has ANYTHING AT ALL to do any conspiracy to carry out the JFKA.


--- Quote ---Based on asking “cui bono?” after the assassination, the benefits accrued to those who who would be expected to be behind the Cuba, LBJ or Mossad theories. The sabotage/assassination plots against Cuba stopped and there was no invasion. LBJ gained the presidency and not removed from office due to the corruption investigations. Israel was able to continue its nuclear weapons program unmolested, watchdogs dragged their feet on the NUMEC uranium theft and the Israel escaped RFK/Fulbright attempts to get them registered as a foreign Lobby.

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Someone - probably John Corbett - became practically apoplectic when we went down the "cui bono?" road not too long ago. Lest we forget, however: The Mafia!

Jarrett Smith:
My 90 year old grandmother could have reacted faster than the secret service. They had to cover their asses.

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