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Did the evil, evil Military Industrial Intelligence-Community Complex kill JFK?
Kevin Balch:
Many get quite upset when anything disparaging of the biblical theme park in the middle east is suggested. Criticize our own government all you want but leave our greatest ally alone!
The Mafia would not have done this on their own. They actually vetoed a hit on NY governor Tom Dewey because it would bring to much heat on them. And Hoffa still went to jail.
It is true that the Mafia’s criminal networks and moral ambivalence made them useful for government intelligence agencies. The OSS used the Mafia in WW2 in Operation Underworld to guard the NYC docks from saboteurs and support resistance networks in Italy. Israel used US Mafia networks to smuggle weapons out of the US. The CIA of course used them for assassination attempts on Castro.
The Ruby hit on Oswald could have been requested by the CIA as part of the cover up or ordered by Mossad. Ruby had some interesting companions at the Dallas Police station on Friday evening that were never followed up by the WC.
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: Jarrett Smith on June 14, 2026, 06:22:47 PM ---My 90 year old grandmother could have reacted faster than the secret service. They had to cover their asses.
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Secret Service, FBI, CIA, DPD, LBJ and probably others - they all had CYA reasons for a post-JFKA cover-up of one degree or another.
Another one of my little epiphanies is a quote from Gerry Patrick Hemming (of all people): "I know for a fact there were plans to assassinate JFK. Maybe Oswald just beat 'em to it." I think it's entirely possible that what the best CT researchers (like Hancock) are uncovering were indeed assassination plots at one stage or another of seriousness. Researchers encounter difficulty in fitting Oswald and Dealey Plaza into such plots BECAUSE HE WASN'T PART OF THEM. He may have even been aware that talk of an assassination was in the air - but when Fate handed him an opportunity on a golden platter, he "just beat 'em to it."
Kevin Balch:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on June 14, 2026, 07:01:17 PM ---Secret Service, FBI, CIA, DPD, LBJ and probably others - they all had CYA reasons for a post-JFKA cover-up of one degree or another.
Another one of my little epiphanies is a quote from Gerry Patrick Hemming (of all people): "I know for a fact there were plans to assassinate JFK. Maybe Oswald just beat 'em to it." I think it's entirely possible that what the best CT researchers (like Hancock) are uncovering were indeed assassination plots at one stage or another of seriousness. Researchers encounter difficulty in fitting Oswald and Dealey Plaza into such plots BECAUSE HE WASN'T PART OF THEM. He may have even been aware that talk of an assassination was in the air - but when Fate handed him an opportunity on a golden platter, he "just beat 'em to it."
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I could buy that except for the timing of the shots and the shallow angle between the back and throat wounds (regardless of whether or not the bullet went on to hit JBC). While eyewitness testimony is not reliable, many recall two of the shots being much closer together than the third shot. There is disagreement as to whether the first two shots or the last two shots were close together but it was noted even by law enforcement officers. When the Discovery Channel recreated the SBT, the shot emerged from JFK’s chest as shown by their own highlighting of the trajectory and the ersatz autopsy drawing they made up to be evaluated by an independent forensic examiner who concluded there were two shooters. However, a shot from a lower floor of the Dal-Tex building looks like it would have worked.
I think it’s possible Oswald gave one of the shooters access to the TSBD and perhaps acted as a lookout. Could he have left the building so soon afterwards to deliberately draw attention to himself and away from someone else? A deliberate “patsy”? If he was put up to it by pro-Castro Cubans, could he have been promised refuge in Cuba? Maybe they had no intention of honoring that promise and he was supposed to be killed but he was captured first.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Lance Payette on June 14, 2026, 06:16:28 PM ---
Someone - probably John Corbett - became practically apoplectic when we went down the "cui bono?" road not too long ago. Lest we forget, however: The Mafia!
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"Apoplectic"??? Perhaps you mistook my laughter for apoplexy. Nothing you guys do angers me. I participate in these online discussions for amusement only. I find it humorous that despite being unable to find any compelling evidence of a conspiracy to kill JFK, you guys continue on your snipe hunt, convinced that one day you will bag your prey. You remind me of Elmer Fudd trying to hunt down Bugs Bunny.
Lance Payette:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on June 16, 2026, 12:53:48 PM ---"Apoplectic"??? Perhaps you mistook my laughter for apoplexy. Nothing you guys do angers me. I participate in these online discussions for amusement only. I find it humorous that despite being unable to find any compelling evidence of a conspiracy to kill JFK, you guys continue on your snipe hunt, convinced that one day you will bag your prey. You remind me of Elmer Fudd trying to hunt down Bugs Bunny.
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You certainly disguise your mirth well. Perhaps concealing your mirth is part of your self-amusement. You strike me as about as mirthful as MTG.
Mirthful John yuks it up at his keyboard over the latest CT post ...
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