CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility

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Online John Corbett

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #77 on: Today at 01:36:23 PM »
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I absolutely agree that this was Oswald's primary motive. It fits equally well with the LN narrative and a conspiracy narrative in which Oswald thought he was doing what the LN narrative posits him doing but was actually the dupe* of others with an entirely different motive. The problem (if one wants to explore conspiracy possibilities) is plausibly connecting him to these mysterious "others." He was pretty vocal and visible about his pro-Castro sympathies, but how would he and his employment in the TSBD have become known to these "others?" Since Byrd owned the TSBD building and Cason was president of the TSBD company, I suppose this is one selling point of Dan's theory if he can account for how either of them would have known of Oswald's background.

*I am sick of "patsy." "Dupe" is my new thing.  :D

Theoretically possible doesn't equate to plausible. You need evidence that the people who you think duped Oswald knew he worked at a building overlooking the motorcade route and that they persuaded him to carry out the assassination. Imagination is a poor substitute for evidence.

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #78 on: Today at 02:09:39 PM »
Theoretically possible doesn't equate to plausible. You need evidence that the people who you think duped Oswald knew he worked at a building overlooking the motorcade route and that they persuaded him to carry out the assassination. Imagination is a poor substitute for evidence.

Unlike zealots of any stripe, I don't actually "need" anything insofar as the JFKA is concerned. Insofar as a plausible conspiracy theory is concerned, I don't think the conspirators needed to know Oswald was working in a building overlooking the motorcade route before recruiting him. He was an in-your-face Castro supporter and Marxist whose sympathies could have been known to many people and who could have been involved in anti-JFK discussions well in advance of the JFKA. It could have been Oswald who approached the others and said "Holy cow, JFK is going to be right in front of the building in which I'm working!" Certainly, as Dan recognizes, convincingly tying Oswald into "the plot" is the primary obstacle to even the most plausible conspiracy theory.

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #79 on: Today at 04:35:28 PM »
Unlike zealots of any stripe, I don't actually "need" anything insofar as the JFKA is concerned.

No you don't. Imagination suffices when cooking up JFKA conspiracy theories. However, if you want to make a compelling argument, you need to do a little better. Some evidence would be nice.
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Insofar as a plausible conspiracy theory is concerned, I don't think the conspirators needed to know Oswald was working in a building overlooking the motorcade route before recruiting him. He was an in-your-face Castro supporter and Marxist whose sympathies could have been known to many people and who could have been involved in anti-JFK discussions well in advance of the JFKA.

Why would they recruit someone if they didn't know he had a perch overlooking the motorcade route. Did they just get lucky?
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It could have been Oswald who approached the others and said "Holy cow, JFK is going to be right in front of the building in which I'm working!"


If Oswald was going to shoot JFK, why would he need to approach anybody? Why not just do it an not tell anybody?
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Certainly, as Dan recognizes, convincingly tying Oswald into "the plot" is the primary obstacle to even the most plausible conspiracy theory.

It is not an obstacle. It is an essential element for anyone positing Oswald was part of a conspiracy and not just acting alone. This is the one element that all conspiracy theories lack. Compelling evidence that someone other than Oswald was complicit in the assassination. For over 6 decades, CTs have used imagination in lieu of evidence to support their theories. If they can conceive it, they will believe it.