CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility

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Online John Mytton

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #42 on: Today at 03:11:59 PM »
:D with 'Maggie's Drawers' 3 out 10
and 3 years later he did worse.

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Hmmm, who to trust, my Marine Experts or Delgado who could only score 1 point better than an "unenthusiastic" Oswald who "didn't give a darn"? Ouch!

Mr. LIEBELER - And which one were you?
Mr. DELGADO - I was---I shot about 192.


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Online Michael Capasse

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #43 on: Today at 03:15:40 PM »
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Hmmm, who to trust, my Marine Experts or Delgado who could only score 1 point better than an "unenthusiastic" Oswald who "didn't give a darn"? Ouch!


Mr. LIEBELER - And which one were you?
Mr. DELGADO - I was---I shot about 192.


JohnM

Yet, His latest score categorized him as a "rather poor shot"

(May 06,1959 MCAS | El Toro CA)
Oswald scored one point above the minimum for the lowest grade.

Marksman Qualification = 190
Oswald Score = 191

“To become qualified as a sharpshooter the Marine Corps is of the opinion that most Marines
with a reasonable amount of adaptability to weapons firing can be, so qualified.
Consequently a low marksman qualification indicates a “rather poor shot” (Vol 19 pages 16-18)
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Online John Corbett

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #44 on: Today at 03:37:23 PM »
Yet, His latest score categorized him as a "rather poor shot"

(May 06,1959 MCAS | El Toro CA)
Oswald scored one point above the minimum for the lowest grade.

Marksman Qualification = 190
Oswald Score = 191

“To become qualified as a sharpshooter the Marine Corps is of the opinion that most Marines
with a reasonable amount of adaptability to weapons firing can be, so qualified.
Consequently a low marksman qualification indicates a “rather poor shot” (Vol 19 pages 16-18)


Even the lowest grade requires some proficiency with a rifle to get a passing score. The USMC doesn't hand out participation trophies.

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
« Reply #45 on: Today at 03:42:27 PM »
Even the lowest grade requires some proficiency with a rifle to get a passing score. The USMC doesn't hand out participation trophies.


“To become qualified as a sharpshooter the Marine Corps is of the opinion that most Marines
with a reasonable amount of adaptability to weapons firing can be, so qualified.
Consequently a low marksman qualification indicates a “rather poor shot” (Vol 19 pages 16-18)

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
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“To become qualified as a sharpshooter the Marine Corps is of the opinion that most Marines
with a reasonable amount of adaptability to weapons firing can be, so qualified.
Consequently a low marksman qualification indicates a “rather poor shot” (Vol 19 pages 16-18)


 :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

What do some actual Expert Marine Officers say about Oswald's shooting abilities.

Mr. SPECTER. Based on the tests of Mr. Oswald shown by those documents, how would you characterize his ability as a marksman?
Sergeant ZAHM. I would say in the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average, and as compared to the average male of his age throughout the civilian, throughout the United States, that he is an excellent shot.


How about the question of Oswald's capabilities to take the head shot?

Mr. SPECTER - I now show you a document marked as Commission Exhibit No. 902, which characterizes what was believed to have been the shot which struck President Kennedy in the head at a distance from rifle in window to the President of 265.3 feet, with the photograph through rifle scope identified on the document being the view which the marksman had of the President at the time the President was struck in the head, and I ask you again for an opinion as to the ease or difficulty of that shot, taking into consideration the capabilities of Mr. Oswald as a marksman, evidenced by the Marine Corps documents on him.
Major ANDERSON - I consider it to be not a particularly difficult shot at this short range, and that Oswald had full capabilities to make such a shot.


Then lastly, what was the difficulties of Oswald with his equipment of taking the Dealey Plaza shot?

Mr. SPECTER. How would you characterize that, as a difficult, not too difficult, easy, or how would you characterize that shot?
Sergeant ZAHM. With the equipment he had and with his ability, I consider it a very easy shot.

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
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:D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D :D ;D

What do some actual Expert Marine Officers say about Oswald's shooting abilities.

Mr. SPECTER. Based on the tests of Mr. Oswald shown by those documents, how would you characterize his ability as a marksman?
Sergeant ZAHM. I would say in the Marine Corps he is a good shot, slightly above average, and as compared to the average male of his age throughout the civilian, throughout the United States, that he is an excellent shot.


How about the question of Oswald's capabilities to take the head shot?

Mr. SPECTER - I now show you a document marked as Commission Exhibit No. 902, which characterizes what was believed to have been the shot which struck President Kennedy in the head at a distance from rifle in window to the President of 265.3 feet, with the photograph through rifle scope identified on the document being the view which the marksman had of the President at the time the President was struck in the head, and I ask you again for an opinion as to the ease or difficulty of that shot, taking into consideration the capabilities of Mr. Oswald as a marksman, evidenced by the Marine Corps documents on him.
Major ANDERSON - I consider it to be not a particularly difficult shot at this short range, and that Oswald had full capabilities to make such a shot.


Then lastly, what was the difficulties of Oswald with his equipment of taking the Dealey Plaza shot?

Mr. SPECTER. How would you characterize that, as a difficult, not too difficult, easy, or how would you characterize that shot?
Sergeant ZAHM. With the equipment he had and with his ability, I consider it a very easy shot.


Blah Blah Blah ! Does nothing to change the fact:
Consequently a low marksman qualification indicates a “rather poor shot

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Re: CTers: Do yourself a favor and focus on plausibility
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“To become qualified as a sharpshooter the Marine Corps is of the opinion that most Marines
with a reasonable amount of adaptability to weapons firing can be, so qualified.
Consequently a low marksman qualification indicates a “rather poor shot” (Vol 19 pages 16-18)


Even a "poor shot" by USMC standards requires proficiency with a rifle. To score 191, Oswald would have to be able to hit targets 200 yards away and more. His longest shot in Dealey Plaza as only 88 yards.