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Offline John Mytton

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On top of all the other flaws and problems with Gordon Arnold's "recollections" is the location he decided to "film" from, a location from which part of the road was obscured by a wall and a tree. Arnold said that he did some panning tests(of this once in a lifetime opportunity), but he never figured out that there were much better filming positions that were not that far away? Doh!
It's no wonder after realizing his amateurish blunder, Arnold invented piles of dirt which would have to be very high to see over the wall but the higher he goes, the more the tree would hinder his view.
Of course the obvious solution would be to film closer to the full view of the road but then he loses his cover story of being hidden, deep in the shadows.
BTW the tree as seen in Duncan's post was there in 1963 and if anything the main bulk of leaves was lower and more dense.



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Re: Gordon Arnold - The Man Who Claimed He Was Attacked By Badgeman
« Reply #22 on: Yesterday at 02:22:46 PM »
   Once again, you are Lost. The alleged Gordon Arnold figure is NOT on the same side of the picket fence as the other 2 Men. The ground on the 2 sides of the N-S Picket Fence are NOT level with each other. Break down and buy yourself a copy of "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" DVD's. A new copy runs $13 + Ship over on Ebay. You're currently flying blind. Looking pretty bad.

I saw TMWKK when it aired about 35 years ago and it was a bunch of crapola then and I have no reason to believe it has improved with age. Initially, it was produced by a UK production company. It was re-edited and if I remember right, was presented on The History Channel. When I saw that version was being hosted by Bill Kurtis, I knew his career had done a U-turn.

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On top of all the other flaws and problems with Gordon Arnold's "recollections" is the location he decided to "film" from, a location from which part of the road was obscured by a wall and a tree. Arnold said that he did some panning tests(of this once in a lifetime opportunity), but he never figured out that there were much better filming positions that were not that far away? Doh!
It's no wonder after realizing his amateurish blunder, Arnold invented piles of dirt which would have to be very high to see over the wall but the higher he goes, the more the tree would hinder his view.
Of course the obvious solution would be to film closer to the full view of the road but then he loses his cover story of being hidden, deep in the shadows.
BTW the tree as seen in Duncan's post was there in 1963 and if anything the main bulk of leaves was lower and more dense.



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   JOHN - In Arnold's Q/A by the Sixth Floor, he mentions doing some kinda practice panning and having issues with "signage". (paraphrasing). I took this to be the Stemmons Sign and it blocking his view of Elm St just as it did Zapruder. This led to the higher ground/mound position that Arnold claimed to have taken. His "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" piece was done in 1988, 25 yrs after the assassination. Just my opinion, but 25 yrs later, I believe Gordon Arnold had his physical position off a bit. I believe he was closer to the large tree between the N-S Picket Fence and the walkway. And again, Sen Yarborough did verify seeing someone bouncing/diving around back there.
   Also, that picket fence had been repaired/rebuilt several times by the time Arnold did his TMWKK piece. There's no guarantee the fence was reconstructed in exactly the same position on the knoll that it was in on 11/22/63. Military individuals use landmarks to fix their position. If that picket fence was Not in the exact same position on the knoll when Arnold did his TMWKK piece, this may have thrown Arnold off with respect to exactly where he was standing and filming.   

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Re: Gordon Arnold - The Man Who Claimed He Was Attacked By Badgeman
« Reply #24 on: Yesterday at 03:01:52 PM »
I saw TMWKK when it aired about 35 years ago and it was a bunch of crapola then and I have no reason to believe it has improved with age. Initially, it was produced by a UK production company. It was re-edited and if I remember right, was presented on The History Channel. When I saw that version was being hosted by Bill Kurtis, I knew his career had done a U-turn.

   So, you watched TMWKK 35 yrs ago and somehow YOU FORGOT that Gary Mack originated the Badgeman? You continue to discount your own opinions whatever the JFK Assassination subject matter might be.

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« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 03:10:15 PM »
   So, you watched TMWKK 35 yrs ago and somehow YOU FORGOT that Gary Mack originated the Badgeman? You continue to discount your own opinions whatever the JFK Assassination subject matter might be.

Yes I did. Apparently I didn't think at the time it was important to remember who first came up with that turkey of an idea. I still don't. I've read so many silly ideas put forward over the past 35 years that it would impossible to remember all of them and who originated them.

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« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 04:36:16 PM »
Yes I did. Apparently I didn't think at the time it was important to remember who first came up with that turkey of an idea. I still don't. I've read so many silly ideas put forward over the past 35 years that it would impossible to remember all of them and who originated them.

"Turkey of an idea"! Without realizing it, you are rubber stamping my questioning Gary Mack subsequently being made "curator" of the Sixth Floor Museum. The man established a JFK Assassination "Boner" record that would choke a horse. Definitely a very nice guy, but his Boner Record made clear that he was unqualified for the "curator" position and the JFK Assassination Evidence he then had select access to.

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Re: Gordon Arnold - The Man Who Claimed He Was Attacked By Badgeman
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 05:39:55 PM »
"Turkey of an idea"! Without realizing it, you are rubber stamping my questioning Gary Mack subsequently being made "curator" of the Sixth Floor Museum. The man established a JFK Assassination "Boner" record that would choke a horse. Definitely a very nice guy, but his Boner Record made clear that he was unqualified for the "curator" position and the JFK Assassination Evidence he then had select access to.

Apparently, the Dallas County Historical Foundation didn't think that was a deal breaker. If I was hiring for that position, I would be looking for someone with managerial skills and some interest in the JFKA. I have no opinion on what his managerial skills were but apparently the people who hired him were satisfied  with what the knew. Who am I to second guess them.

BTW, the Badgeman photo was a key piece of TMWKK program so if you agree that was a boner, you are impugning that program.