William Niedernut and Low Follies at Education Forum-JFKA

[Benjamin Cole]

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/32101-the-once-and-future-education-forum-quo-vadis/

Even the staunch CT'ers at Education Forum-JFKA have turned on William Niedernut, the anti-Semitic, hardcore CT-max martinet censorian who somehow (inexplicably) became the sole active "moderator"  at the now-floundering EF-JFKA.

Going full volume 10, crank-crackpot, Niedernut doubles down on his narrative that Mossad (with accomplice US President George Bush) perped the 9/11 atrocity, proven by some Israelis purportedly seen "dancing" atop a van and viewing the disaster, way back when.

Niedernut believes his easily disproven, demented narrative of the WTC attack is a "fact."

What does 9/11 have to do with the JFKA anyway. Nothing, except in the fevered minds of of the nutcases now running and populating the EF-JFKA. 

BTW, a tip of the hat to Duncan MacRae, who runs JFK Assassination Forum and incurs none of the self-inflicted wounds that define the EF-JFKA.

Refugees from EF-JFKA: Please join this forum. LN'er and CT'ers participate, and sometimes even in a collegial manner. No unnecessary censorship.

There is one thread for OT commentary.

Simple, and it works.

[Lance Payette]

They have turned on him to some extent, but not to the extent of reality: Sir, you are a very sick human being. You need help.

Because he still holds the moderator's cudgel, apparently they fear being summarily banned (oh, the horror!).

Even Simkin did a complete tap-dance. He's "going on holiday," but he'll get back to this later.

This guy actually is a Harvard-educated PSYCHIATRIST, for God's sake. Oh, the irony.

[Tommy Shanks]

As someone who is just catching up with what goes on over there, my jaw is kinda on the floor. I echo the kudos to Duncan for running a forum free of the seemingly looney behavior at the other spot.

[Lance Payette]

A more cautionary tale than NiederNut is the late David Ray Griffin. He was a longtime professor at Claremont, one of the premier theological schools in the nation. He was the  leading modern exponent of Alfred North Whitehead's "process theology," which is not for dummies. He wrote numerous books and huge numbers of scholarly articles, even the titles of which were hard for a layman to follow. He was 10,000 times more prominent in his field than NiederNut is in his. And, yet, late in life he became one of the leading voices of the 9/11 Truth movement. I was agog. At least he had the "rationality" to attribute 9/11 to Bush-Cheney and not Mossad.

Cases like these should give some pause to those at the lunatic fringe end of the CT spectrum. Some of your leading voices, notwithstanding their apparent credentials, are seriously off. One red flag with characters like NiederNut is the scope of their nuttiness. The JFKA was an elaborate conspiracy, 9/11 was an elaborate conspiracy, and God knows what else. And everyone who thnks otherwise is a "cognitive infiltrator" (disinformation agent) planted by the government. I will give NiederNut credit for making me look up Cass Sunstein, one of his household gods, which I had to do after he suggested I was one of them there cognitive infiltrators (which I am, of course, but on a strictly freelance basis for my own amusement).

[Benjamin Cole]

LP--

On the surface, it is inexplicable when otherwise sane and high IQ people gravitate towards a whacky CT.

The 9/11 Truthers really take the cake, possibly along with the Fake Moon Landing people.

Sometimes people "snap" somewhere in life, possibly due to stress, lack of companionship, self-perceived lack of status, etc. Some men and many women seem to "go batty."

On Griffin, all I can say his specialty was outside physics or mechanical engineering and so on.

Way OT, when I lived in California I noted billionaire types who married younger women, and then supported this or that "liberal" cause. This is almost cliche. Maybe Griffin hooked up with a Truther.

[Michael T. Griffith]

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/32101-the-once-and-future-education-forum-quo-vadis/

Even the staunch CT'ers at Education Forum-JFKA have turned on William Niedernut, the anti-Semitic, hardcore CT-max martinet censorian who somehow (inexplicably) became the sole active "moderator"  at the now-floundering EF-JFKA.

Going full volume 10, crank-crackpot, Niedernut doubles down on his narrative that Mossad (with accomplice US President George Bush) perped the 9/11 atrocity, proven by some Israelis purportedly seen "dancing" atop a van and viewing the disaster, way back when.

Niedernut believes his easily disproven, demented narrative of the WTC attack is a "fact."

What does 9/11 have to do with the JFKA anyway. Nothing, except in the fevered minds of of the nutcases now running and populating the EF-JFKA. 

BTW, a tip of the hat to Duncan MacRae, who runs JFK Assassination Forum and incurs none of the self-inflicted wounds that define the EF-JFKA.

Refugees from EF-JFKA: Please join this forum. LN'er and CT'ers participate, and sometimes even in a collegial manner. No unnecessary censorship.

There is one thread for OT commentary.

Simple, and it works.

Part of the problem is that the forum owner and founder, John Simkin, is a 9/11 Truther and thus seems hesitant to do anything about Niederhut. Simkin was made aware that Niederhut has imposed an 8-month suspension on me, but has done nothing about it. I, too, have encouraged the sane EF members to ditch the EF and come to this forum.

A major problem with the pro-conspiracy JFKA research community is that we allow ourselves to be portrayed as fringe, unserious, and even unhinged when we approvingly quote or include people such as James Fetzer in our discussions. Fetzer has been included in a current email chain among leading JFKA researchers.

Fetzer claims that U.S. intelligence and the Mossad were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Even worse, and incredibly, he claims that no airliners or hijackers were involved in any of the attacks, that Flight 93 did not exist, and that guided missiles and/or explosives were used to destroy the buildings and create the appearance of a plane crash in Shanksville, Pennsylvania. That is absolute and obscene crazy talk, and we should be repudiating this sick nonsense in the loudest, clearest terms, not quoting its spokesmen or including them in our dialogues.

To further put himself on the loony fringe of the spectrum, Fetzer has also said that America and Israel "have become the greatest threats to freedom and democracy ever known, not only in the Middle East but throughout the world." He has even praised Russia and has portrayed the murderous, terrorist-sponsoring regime in Iran as a "beacon of light in comparison to the United States." In one interview, Fetzer said that "Russia and Iran are now providing leadership for the world community. May they prosper and endure!" Iran has murdered tens of thousands of its own citizens, in addition to being the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism, and Russia has murdered tens of thousands of Ukrainian citizens in its brutal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. Fetzer's sick views put him far to the left of even the likes of Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders.

[Benjamin Cole]

MTG--

Verily, I was banned for eight months too. By now, readers of JFK Assassination Forum know my writing stye, and my views. So why was I banned at EF-JFKA? Likely for daring to speak sideways on some of Niedernut's insane views.

Simkin appears a bit into his senescence, and recently wrote he spends 10 hours a day writing history tomes. I hate to day it, but no one is ever going to read Simkin's history tomes. Simkin is in his 80s, and likely should be beekeeping or keeping a cottage somewhere pleasant in Great Britain (if there are any pleasant places left).

One problem with the JFKA CT community is that it includes a huge subset of people who believe every CT, or who are diehard leftists to the max, which today means Islamist-leftists.

The culmination of this konfetti of kooks: Mossad perped the JFKA!

Even Jeff Morley dog-whistled that tune for Tucker Carlson.

Well, I sense the JFKA ship is inevitably passing into the night, with fewer and fewer people genuinely interested in the topic. Like the Lincoln assassination---a few buffs, and that is it.

The generation that was alive when the JFKA happened will soon pass on.