Why did Oswald go get his revolver?

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Online John Corbett

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #28 on: Today at 12:47:49 AM »
One solid theory: Oswald get his pistol so he could take another shot at General Edwin Walker. He had committed one murder and was already facing the death penalty. He knew he would probably be caught soon and wanted to use his time left to kill Walker. He didn't take the most direct to Walker's house, but he had enough cash to use the bus system to get there.

I suppose that is as valid a guess as to what Oswald had in mind as any. I have no idea where he was going or what he planned to do next.

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #29 on: Today at 01:12:52 AM »
Me myself i looked more closely into the jfk saga say 4 years ago, koz i needed a holiday from silly Einsteinian faux science.
I am glad that i did senior education. Koz nowadays it givs me much satisfaction being able to cross swords with ignorant Einsteinists.
I did my fair share of trout fishing, tennis, billiards, hang gliding, gliding, golf, etc.
Instead of applying for a newly created senior position made just for me, i resigned, & i mooved to a junior position in a different field.
Jobs should not dictate your life. Other things are more important in the long run. Life iz short.
Today i hav kangaroos & wallabies & echidnas & blue tongued lizards & a dozen kinds of birds around my house.
A few years ago there were 2 sightings of a Tasmanian Tiger in the bush behind my place.
8 years ago i had 3 horses 3 dogs & my wife, now all gone.
Nowadays every day iz a gift.

I will trade you two cats for an echidna!  :D :D :D Just send it by FedEx. Despite looking like a porcupine, they are apparently cuddly as heck. My non-Einsteinian physics is idealism, the most current proponent of which is Bernardo Kastrup - basically the notion that mind or consciousness is the fundamental "stuff" of reality and that material reality as we experience it is actually a construct of a master consciousness. Kastrup, who is no lightweight, insists idealism meshes with science better than either materialism or dualism.


Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #30 on: Today at 02:23:19 AM »
On a hot summer day my big dark echidna flops into the birdbath next to my bathroom.
And i usually need to refill the birdbath if the kangaroos drink from it instead of the frogpond.
Kastrup will find it difficult to explain consciousness, i wouldnt be surprized if no-one ever does (or at least i would be surprized, ie if i woz still around in a thousand years).
I used to think that time woz in the same category as consciousness, ie impossible to explain, but then i realized that time woz a construct (a construct of our consciousness), & that time iz the prezent instant, & that the prezent instant iz universal, in our eternal infinite non-explainable universe.
But i disagree with Kastrup re religion, me myself i profoundly disrespect all godfull religions, but am ok with godless religions.
I wonder what Kastrup might think re my elekticity on a wire, which iz due to elektons (photons) hugging the surface of the Cu wire, whilst the elektons are propagating at the speed of light. Anyhow, he can read my elekticity book in late 2026.
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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #31 on: Today at 02:37:58 AM »
Why did Oswald go get his revolver?

While searching my own website/blog for material pertaining to Oswald And His Revolver (and other interesting matters), I came across the two webpages below. (I have found that reading old, long-forgotten-about JFK-related posts and debates can be a very enjoyable and fruitful exercise.) 😀

https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2017/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1220.html

https://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2019/08/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1329.html

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #32 on: Today at 02:52:00 AM »
On a hot summer day my big dark echidna flops into the birdbath next to my bathroom.
And i usually need to refill the birdbath if the kangaroos drink from it instead of the frogpond.
Kastrup will find it difficult to explain consciousness, i wouldnt be surprized if no-one ever does (or at least i would be surprized, ie if i woz still around in a thousand years).
I used to think that time woz in the same category as consciousness, ie impossible to explain, but then i realized that time woz a construct (a construct of our consciousness), & that time iz the prezent instant, & that the prezent instant iz universal, in our eternal infinite non-explainable universe.
But i disagree with Kastrup re religion, me myself i profoundly disrespect all godfull religions, but am ok with godless religions.
I wonder what Kastrup might think re my elekticity on a wire, which iz due to elektons (photons) hugging the surface of the Cu wire, whilst the elektons are propagating at the speed of light. Anyhow, he can read my elekticity book in late 2026.

FWIW, Kastrup really isn't religious at all. He has noted the affinity between his views and Buddhism, but that's about all. I actually think idealism can be incorporated into almost any belief system, secular or religious.

Now that I'm off in the ozone: His basic theory is that all of reality is a construct of the master consciousness. Within this construct, we are individual bubbles of consciousness that he calls "alters." Via our senses, we each experience external reality in the same way but also have our internal consciousnesses that are available only to us (and presumably the master consciousness). I happen to have an extremely active and weird dream life, and I think that dreams are a pretty big clue to what a non-material reality might be like.

OK, people, admit it: None of you read Thomas Nagel's "What is it like to be a bat?" This is your last chance - Bernardo Kastrup's Analytic Idealism in a Nutshell: A Straightforward Summary of the 21st Century's Only Plausible Metaphysics, https://www.amazon.com/Analytic-Idealism-Nutshell-straightforward-metaphysics/dp/1803416696. There will be a quiz on Friday.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #33 on: Today at 03:05:07 AM »
Oswald’s one fatal mistake was going to Beckley to get his revolver. Had he not been carrying it, he probably could have talked his way out of the encounter with Tippit since he was rooming in the vicinity.

He could have carried it into the TSBD in a lunch sack on the morning of the 21st and had it waiting for him on the 22nd. I’ve seen it suggested at the Ed Forum that he was concerned about being frisked as he exited the TSBD on the 22nd.

I really don’t think that works. He obviously ran the risk of being frisked when he went to Beckley and got it. Indeed, that’s probably why he shot Tippit. Even if that were his thought process, he could have hidden it nearer the TSBD.

Why did he go get it? Without that move, he could’ve been long gone. Without that move, he would’ve had a much greater chance of talking his way out of any police encounter.

The fact that he didn’t have the revolver in the TSBD suggests to me what a truly last-minute, morning-of-the-22nd decision the JFKA was. My guess would be that he was completely surprised to find himself outside the TSBD and that going after the revolver was a panicked, knee-jerk reaction.

It’s hard for me to picture any CT scenario where going to Beckley and getting his revolver would have been part of the plan.

Dear FPR,

Maybe, like a lot of other gun nuts, he just wanted to fondle it while watching "War is Hell" and "Cry of Battle."

-- Tom

Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Why did Oswald go get his revolver?
« Reply #34 on: Today at 01:58:00 PM »
Where I believe these little thought exercises are useful is not that we're going to figure out exactly what Oswald was thinking but that they do tend to eliminate some possibilities.

One of the more popular theories is that Oswald was heading to a rendezvous - at Jack Ruby's, at a safe house in Oak Cliff, at the Texas Theater, at the Redbird Airport. To me, it is inconceivable that "a pit stop at Beckley to grab his revolver" would have been part of any such plan. It simply makes no sense. Those who favor rendezvous theories are stuck with this scenario, but it simply makes no sense.

He realized he was a patsy and went home to get his gun for protection: OK. Far-fetched for a host of reasons, but at least not irrational.

He was astounded to find himself outside the TSBD, had no plan at all, his mind was racing, and he went home to get his revolver because it might come in handy for whatever the hell might happen next: Yes, fits pretty well, it seems to me.