This at least gives me pause about the LN narrative

[John Corbett]

Once again, cherry picking 

Cherry picking? I simply pointed out that Oswald did not have a Coke in his hands when confronted by Baker. The source of Oswald having a Coke in his hands was Reid, not Baker. It really doesn't matter if Reid saw Oswald with a Coke.

[Michael Capasse]

Cherry picking? I simply pointed out that Oswald did not have a Coke in his hands when confronted by Baker. The source of Oswald having a Coke in his hands was Reid, not Baker. It really doesn't matter if Reid saw Oswald with a Coke.

Baker said he saw an open coke. It was written in his statement.
  you have pointed out nothing more than a lame excuse for timing that you just made up.

[John Corbett]

I see the discussion of the Baker encounter. You have just blown off the head of the President. You rush down the stairs, hoping to escape. You hear Baker and Truly coming up. You duck into the lunchroom, apparently seconds before the encounter. Baker sticks his gun in your stomach and asks Truly if you work there. And you are cool as a cumcumber, like a deer in the headlights, not even breathing hard. If you had 5 minutes to compose yourself, perhaps. Under the circumstances, I find it almost unbelievable. The encounter does not sound like it lasted long enough for Oswald to ask, "What is this all about, gentlemen?" After the encounter, I suppose he would now feel a sense of near-euphoria: "I just survived an encounter with the police! I'm actually going to walk out of this building!" He might have had the presence of mind to think "It will look even better if I'm casually carrying a Coke" - but I'm not convinced he even was carrying a Coke, and this too seems like a very odd detail under the circumstances. All just ... very odd. At least to me.

Oswald wasn't seen with a Coke until after the Baker encounter. Baker said he did not have a Coke when he confronted Oswald. Baker did not write his official statement. It was written up for him and he was asked to sign it. He read the prepared statement and refused to sign it because it said Oswald had a Coke in his hand and he knew that he hadn't said that. They asked him to cross out the reference to the Coke and initial his correction, which he did and then signed the statement

My guess is the person who prepared the statement for Baker did so from notes taken when he was interviewed. It's possible that same person had also prepared Reid's statement and conflated what Reid said with what Baker said. Whatever the reason for the mistake was, Baker made a point to say he did not see Oswald with a Coke in his hand.

Oswald would not have had time to buy a Coke because he had just entered the lunchroom seconds before Baker reached the landing. Baker spotted him through the window of the outer door. There was an inner door which didn't have a glass window and that door had an automatic closer. The only reason Baker was able to see Oswald was because Oswald had just gone through that inner door and it had not closed behind him. Had Oswald ben in the lunchroom for more than a few seconds, that inner door would have been closed and Baker wouldn't have even known he was there.

[John Corbett]

Baker said he saw an open coke. It was written in his statement.
  you have pointed out nothing more than a lame excuse for timing that you just made up.

Baker didn't write the statement. It was prepared for him. Baker read it and refused to sign it because he HAD NOT said Oswald had a Coke. He was asked to cross out the reference to the Coke, initial it, and then sign the statement which he did.

Why do you guys keep clinging to these long-ago debunked myths?

[Michael Capasse]

Oswald wasn't seen with a Coke until after the Baker encounter. Baker said he did not have a Coke when he confronted Oswald. Baker did not write his official statement. It was written up for him and he was asked to sign it. He read the prepared statement and refused to sign it because it said Oswald had a Coke in his hand and he knew that he hadn't said that. They asked him to cross out the reference to the Coke and initial his correction, which he did and then signed the statement

My guess is the person who prepared the statement for Baker did so from notes taken when he was interviewed. It's possible that same person had also prepared Reid's statement and conflated what Reid said with what Baker said. Whatever the reason for the mistake was, Baker made a point to say he did not see Oswald with a Coke in his hand.

Oswald would not have had time to buy a Coke because he had just entered the lunchroom seconds before Baker reached the landing. Baker spotted him through the window of the outer door. There was an inner door which didn't have a glass window and that door had an automatic closer. The only reason Baker was able to see Oswald was because Oswald had just gone through that inner door and it had not closed behind him. Had Oswald ben in the lunchroom for more than a few seconds, that inner door would have been closed and Baker wouldn't have even known he was there.

"He read the prepared statement and refused to sign it because it said Oswald had a Coke in his hand and he knew that he hadn't said that."
Cite the documented evidence of this garbage and the other 2/3's about where and when he actually said those things.

Otherwise it is just made up

[John Mytton]

Not this crapasse again.
 • From the stairs you have a clear view of the Vestibule window, you know a clear glass window which is designed to be seen through.
 • Baker as he raced up the stairs wasn't making a search of the entire building, he noticed something out of the ordinary and investigated. Baker's priority was to reach the top of the building and the only reason he happened to see Oswald was because the elevator was stuck on an upper floor.
 • Truly who came in behind Baker said Oswald was standing just beyond the entrance of the lunchroom.

Mr. BELIN - What did you see that caused you to turn away from going up to the third floor?
Mr. BAKER - As I came out of that stairway running, Mr. Truly had already gone on around, see, and I don't know, as I come around----
Mr. DULLES - Gone on around and up?
Mr. BAKER - He had already started around the bend to come to the next elevation going up, I was coming out this one on the second floor, and I don't know, I was kind of sweeping this area as I come up, I was looking from right to left and as I got to this door here I caught a glimpse of this man, just, you know, a sudden glimpse, that is all it was now, and it looked to me like he was going away from me.
Mr. BELIN - All right. Then what did you do?
Mr. BAKER - I ran on up here and opened this door and when I got this door opened I could see him walking on down.
Mr. DULLES - Had he meanwhile gone on through the door ahead of you?
Mr. BAKER - I can't say whether he had gone on through that door or not. All I did was catch a glance at him, and evidently he was--this door might have been, you know, closing and almost shut at that time.

The view from the stairs, looking right through the vestibule door window into the hallway and the entrance to the lunchroom, which cannot be seen, is to the left



 • Baker saw enough of Oswald to calculate that Oswald was hurriedly moving away from Law Enforcement because Oswald moved quite far in the same time that Baker ran from the top of the stairs to the door. By the time Officer Baker reaches the vestibule door, Oswald has now decided to not "hang around" but Oswald is suspiciously hurrying out of the corridor and is now about 20 feet away from Officer Baker?

Mr. BAKER - Evidently he was hurrying because at this point here, I was running, and I ran on over here to this door.

Mr. BELIN - All right. I see a coke machine off on the left. When you saw Oswald after you got to this doorway inside the lunchroom, had he gone as far as the coke machine?
Mr. BAKER - I didn't notice the coke machine or any item in the room there All I was looking at was the man, and he seemed to be approximately 20 feet down there from me.

A plan of the 2nd floor with Baker's initial position when he saw Oswald, indicated by the "B" enclosed with the red box.

Mr. BAKER - At the upper portion of this stairway leading to the second floor, I was just stepping out on to the second floor when I caught this glimpse of this man through this doorway.
Mr. BELIN - Do you want to put a spot there, with the letter "B" at the point you believe you were when you were looking through that door? You put the letter "B" on Exhibit 497 when you first saw the movement.
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.



Truly saw Oswald standing just inside the lunchroom.

Mr. BELIN. And where was Lee Harvey Oswald at the time you saw him?
Mr. TRULY. He was at the front of the lunchroom, not very far inside he was just inside the lunchroom door.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. TRULY. 2 or 3 feet, possibly.
Mr. BELIN. Could you put an "O" where you saw Lee Harvey Oswald?
All right. You have put an "O" on Exhibit 497.



Howlett showing the vestibule door closing(viewed from a different angled) which may have alerted Baker.



And as for the coke comment, it was crossed out and initialled by Baker.



For reference, here's Roy Truly's report.



Whoever wrote Baker's above report also wrote Truly's.
Not only are the way the letters written identical, the spacing between words and numbers are equally identical.



JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

Not this crapasse again.
 • From the stairs you have a clear view of the Vestibule window, you know a clear glass window which is designed to be seen through.
 • Baker as he raced up the stairs wasn't making a search of the entire building, he noticed something out of the ordinary and investigated. Baker's priority was to reach the top of the building and the only reason he happened to see Oswald was because the elevator was stuck on an upper floor.
 • Truly who came in behind Baker said Oswald was standing just beyond the entrance of the lunchroom.

Mr. BELIN - What did you see that caused you to turn away from going up to the third floor?
Mr. BAKER - As I came out of that stairway running, Mr. Truly had already gone on around, see, and I don't know, as I come around----
Mr. DULLES - Gone on around and up?
Mr. BAKER - He had already started around the bend to come to the next elevation going up, I was coming out this one on the second floor, and I don't know, I was kind of sweeping this area as I come up, I was looking from right to left and as I got to this door here I caught a glimpse of this man, just, you know, a sudden glimpse, that is all it was now, and it looked to me like he was going away from me.
Mr. BELIN - All right. Then what did you do?
Mr. BAKER - I ran on up here and opened this door and when I got this door opened I could see him walking on down.
Mr. DULLES - Had he meanwhile gone on through the door ahead of you?
Mr. BAKER - I can't say whether he had gone on through that door or not. All I did was catch a glance at him, and evidently he was--this door might have been, you know, closing and almost shut at that time.

The view from the stairs, looking right through the vestibule door window into the hallway and the entrance to the lunchroom, which cannot be seen, is to the left

 • Baker saw enough of Oswald to calculate that Oswald was hurriedly moving away from Law Enforcement because Oswald moved quite far in the same time that Baker ran from the top of the stairs to the door. By the time Officer Baker reaches the vestibule door, Oswald has now decided to not "hang around" but Oswald is suspiciously hurrying out of the corridor and is now about 20 feet away from Officer Baker?

Mr. BAKER - Evidently he was hurrying because at this point here, I was running, and I ran on over here to this door.

Mr. BELIN - All right. I see a coke machine off on the left. When you saw Oswald after you got to this doorway inside the lunchroom, had he gone as far as the coke machine?
Mr. BAKER - I didn't notice the coke machine or any item in the room there All I was looking at was the man, and he seemed to be approximately 20 feet down there from me.

A plan of the 2nd floor with Baker's initial position when he saw Oswald, indicated by the "B" enclosed with the red box.

Mr. BAKER - At the upper portion of this stairway leading to the second floor, I was just stepping out on to the second floor when I caught this glimpse of this man through this doorway.
Mr. BELIN - Do you want to put a spot there, with the letter "B" at the point you believe you were when you were looking through that door? You put the letter "B" on Exhibit 497 when you first saw the movement.
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.

Truly saw Oswald standing just inside the lunchroom.

Mr. BELIN. And where was Lee Harvey Oswald at the time you saw him?
Mr. TRULY. He was at the front of the lunchroom, not very far inside he was just inside the lunchroom door.
Mr. BELIN. All right.
Mr. TRULY. 2 or 3 feet, possibly.
Mr. BELIN. Could you put an "O" where you saw Lee Harvey Oswald?
All right. You have put an "O" on Exhibit 497.

Howlett showing the vestibule door closing(viewed from a different angled) which may have alerted Baker.

And as for the coke comment, it was crossed out and initialled by Baker.

For reference, here's Roy Truly's report.

Whoever wrote Baker's above report also wrote Truly's.
Not only are the way the letters written identical, the spacing between words and numbers are equally identical.

JohnM

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Baker stated he saw Oswald drinking a coke. It was written down.

Do you have the statement from Baker that it was a mistake ?
that was not part of the tired garbage you posted.