Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver

[John Corbett]

Why did your comment exclude Jean Hill?

Jean Hill actually witnessed the shooting even though not everything she said was spot on. Hoffman and Oliver were frauds.

[Lance Payette]

Yeah, eyewitnesses can be wrong. But they can also be making accurate/astute observations amidst the muddle of their inaccurate story. Jean Hill has been ridiculed for decades with respect to her claiming there was a, "dog in the middle of the seat....", inside the JFK Limo. And this ridicule includes the above puffed up, "FBI employee by day...".  There was a "Lamb Chop" hand puppet inside the JFK Limo. Specifically, this "Lamb Chop" hand puppet was on the back seat between JFK and Jackie. Jean Hill was the only person inside Dealey Plaza to see this Lamb Chop/"Dog" inside the JFK Limo. The point being, "Do NOT throw the baby out with the bath water". There can be specks of truth within an inaccurate eyewitness story.

Nah, the Lamb Chop puppet was in the getaway car.

Actually, here is a thread from the Ed Forum started by Jack White (EEK!) with a photo in which the bouquet of white flowers carried by Jackie does indeed look quite a bit like Lamb Chop: https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/12420-jfk-holds-lambchop/. The consensus of the more intelligent folks seems to be that this was, alas, the bouquet. For the record, no hand puppets were injured in the flurry of bullets and, contrary to vicious rumor, Shari Lewis was not between JFK's knees at the time.

I grew up in the Lamb Chop era. Too insipidly stupid for me even as a 6-year-old. Nothing worse than a bad ventriliquist, eh?

[John Corbett]

Yeah, eyewitnesses can be wrong. But they can also be making accurate/astute observations amidst the muddle of their inaccurate story. Jean Hill has been ridiculed for decades with respect to her claiming there was a, "dog in the middle of the seat....", inside the JFK Limo. And this ridicule includes the above puffed up, "FBI employee by day...".  There was a "Lamb Chop" hand puppet inside the JFK Limo. Specifically, this "Lamb Chop" hand puppet was on the back seat between JFK and Jackie. Jean Hill was the only person inside Dealey Plaza to see this Lamb Chop/"Dog" inside the JFK Limo. The point being, "Do NOT throw the baby out with the bath water". There can be specks of truth within an inaccurate eyewitness story.

This is why I don't put Jean Hill in the same category as Hoffman and Oliver. She was definitely in Dealey Plaza and was close to the limo when the fatal shot struck. I'm not surprised that she mistook a puppet for a small dog. I think she later embellished some of the things she claimed to have seen but I'll give her a pass on the small dog.

[Sean Kneringer]

McAdams on Jean Hill:

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/jhill.htm

[Zeon Mason]

So where is the Babushka  lady film? She was holding a camera. It was capturing the close up perspective view better than any other camera person. Coincidence?

[Lance Payette]

Your intrepid Factoid-Buster is now hot on the trail (or perhaps that should be tail) of the Lamb Chop Factoid. Here is another thread from the Ed Forum, this time in 2010 and once again started by Jack White (EEK!): https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/15477-why-was-this-man-carrying-a-toy-dog/.

It seems pretty clear there was no Lamb Chop in the limousine, unless Jackie used to call Greer "Lamb Chop" in their more informal moments. Probably I'll just let this factoid die a peaceful death.

Just a thought, Royell: Maybe that's why Officer Haygood had his glove off - to accomodate Lamb Chop if necessary for a clean getaway? "Do not leave the scene without Lamb Chop, Officer Haygood Imposter."

Oh, wait, here is a 10-second YouTube video clearly showing Jackie holding Lamb Chop at Love Field. Except I don't see any Lamb Chop unless this was her pet name (pet name - get it?) for JFK, as in "Why are you porking that 17-year-old intern, Lamb Chop?"

[John Corbett]

So where is the Babushka  lady film? She was holding a camera. It was capturing the close up perspective view better than any other camera person. Coincidence?

This is an example of trying to make a point by raising a question. Questions are no evidence. You need answers.