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Offline Duncan MacRae

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« Reply #1 on: Today at 12:37:22 PM »
Are there still people in this world who think Ed Hoffman and Beverley Oliver are credible witnesses?

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« Reply #3 on: Today at 02:29:49 PM »
Are there still people in this world who think Ed Hoffman and Beverley Oliver are credible witnesses?

Why did your comment exclude Jean Hill?


Online Lance Payette

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« Reply #4 on: Today at 02:57:05 PM »
The lesson is that one's theory of the JFKA should be informed exclusively by statements contemporaneous with the event or within a matter of days thereafter. Whether we're talking about CT-friendly witnesses or LN-friendly ones, it's absolutely inevitable that stories change, always in the direction of getting "better" and usually more elaborate, as time passes and the witness is exposed to other material and starts to enjoy his or her 15 minutes of fame. This is true across all areas of weirdness in which I've been involved. I even have to guard against this in my own recollections of anomalous experiences I've had. I've occasionally been asked to recount them for books or studies, and I definitely have to rein myself in and avoid the temptation to make them just a bit "better." There is also, of course, the fallibility of memory; as we are exposed to other material, we unconsciously start to incoporate it into our own "memories" and believe it really happened to us. Yet, how much JFKA theorizing is predicated on these long-after-the-fact statements and supposed recollections?

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« Reply #5 on: Today at 04:03:36 PM »

 Yeah, eyewitnesses can be wrong. But they can also be making accurate/astute observations amidst the muddle of their inaccurate story. Jean Hill has been ridiculed for decades with respect to her claiming there was a, "dog in the middle of the seat....", inside the JFK Limo. And this ridicule includes the above puffed up, "FBI employee by day...".  There was a "Lamb Chop" hand puppet inside the JFK Limo. Specifically, this "Lamb Chop" hand puppet was on the back seat between JFK and Jackie. Jean Hill was the only person inside Dealey Plaza to see this Lamb Chop/"Dog" inside the JFK Limo. The point being, "Do NOT throw the baby out with the bath water". There can be specks of truth within an inaccurate eyewitness story.

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Re: Video: Hoffman Hill & Oliver
« Reply #6 on: Today at 04:08:19 PM »
Are there still people in this world who think Ed Hoffman and Beverley Oliver are credible witnesses?
What i did is i watched & read every thing that Hoffman said, & i read every thing that he supposedly said.
And i can clearly see that Hoffman was indeed on the overpass at that time.
But 99.9% of what he said was krapp.