Old Article on G2-Castro Perping the JFKA---Gus Russo

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Offline Lance Payette

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Re: Old Article on G2-Castro Perping the JFKA---Gus Russo
« Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 02:59:59 PM »
An interesting alternative to the list of "JFKA Mystery Deaths" would be an alternative list of entirely respectable, upstanding, hard-working, decent Americans with loving families whose reputations were completely shredded, often while they were still alive, by dark speculation and innuendo from JFKA conspiracy cranks. The Bruce Solie memorial site, for crying out loud, has been befouled by 33rd Degree Conspiracy Loon "Linda" (I forget her last name), who sounds like she belongs in a mental institution: https://www.findagrave.com/user/profile/48291572. There ought to be a law, as the saying goes.

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« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 03:35:11 PM »
An interesting alternative to the list of "JFKA Mystery Deaths" would be an alternative list of entirely respectable, upstanding, hard-working, decent Americans with loving families whose reputations were completely shredded, often while they were still alive, by dark speculation and innuendo from JFKA conspiracy cranks. The Bruce Solie memorial site, for crying out loud, has been befouled by 33rd Degree Conspiracy Loon "Linda" (I forget her last name), who sounds like she belongs in a mental institution: https://www.findagrave.com/user/profile/48291572. There ought to be a law, as the saying goes.

Dear Fancy Pants Rants,

I believe JFKA CT Linda Giovanna Zambanini got it right about Solie but was rather gauche in posting the information about him at an obituary site.

She's posted derogatory info -- true or not -- about several JFKA villains and hated CIA types over the years at Find-a-Grave.

Is Solie's the only one you're upset about?

-- Tom
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Online John Corbett

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Re: Old Article on G2-Castro Perping the JFKA---Gus Russo
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 11:48:53 PM »
TG--

For that matter, liddle-widdle LHO, self-defined "Marxist," and self-imagined great thinker, may have chosen to go to Russia all on his own liddle-widdle initiative, and Bruce Solie may have been an ordinary CIA'er, nothing more than a less-than-stellar desk jockey. 

If you think LHO could conceive and execute the JFKA on his own...surely LHO could venture to Russia on his own, a much less intrepid exercise.

My guess is LHO had sponsors or confederates for both actions.

What reason is there to believe Oswald needed or had any assistance in the assassination of JFK.

It was very simple task given the random circumstances that brought JFK past the TSBD within EASY rifle range of Oswald and his Carcano. Once he learned of the opportunity fate had dealt him, all he had to do was figure out how to smuggle his rifle into the TSBD, find a location where he would be alone at the critical time, wait for his target to arrive, stick his rifle out a window and shoot a man a short distance away. A professional assassin would have taken needed just one shot to get the job done. Oswald, being a good but not great marksman, needed three. Nothing complicated given the hand he was dealt.

There is zero evidence anybody in the KGB assisted him.

There is zero evidence anybody in the CIA assisted him.

There is zero evidence anybody in the Mafia assisted him.

There is zero evidence anybody in the US government assisted him.

There is zero evidence anybody at all assisted him.

There is only imagination and wild speculation that anybody at all assisted him,

Why should I or anybody else believe anyone assisted him.

In lieu of such evidence, I will continue to believe Oswald cooked this up and carried it out all by himself.

Given the passage of over 62 years with no such evidence emerging, the prospect of any such evidence emerging, I will continue to believe Oswald acted alone, just as the WC told us 61 years and 8 months ago.

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 12:14:47 AM »
TG--

For that matter, liddle-widdle LHO, self-defined "Marxist," and self-imagined great thinker, may have chosen to go to Russia all on his own liddle-widdle initiative, and Bruce Solie may have been an ordinary CIA'er, nothing more than a less-than-stellar desk jockey. 

If you think LHO could conceive and execute the JFKA on his own...surely LHO could venture to Russia on his own, a much less intrepid exercise.

My guess is LHO had sponsors or confederates for both actions.


Dear "BC," check out my most recent article on my Substack page, How the KGB Zombified the CIA and the FBI.

It's titled "Maybe. Maybe not."

Here it is!



TG--

You wrote
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Just because James Angleton's confidant, mentor, and mole-hunting superior, probable KGB mole Bruce Solie, may have sent Oswald to Moscow in October 1959 as an ostensible "dangle" in a (unbeknownst to Angleton and Oswald) planned-to-fail hunt for "Popov's U-2 Mole (Solie) in the wrong part of the CIA, it doesn't necessarily mean that Solie or the KGB encouraged and/or programmed self-described Marxist Oswald to kill JFK.

In other words, self-described Marxist Oswald may have decided to kill JFK all by his self-described Marxist self.



Here's my reply to you, TG (paraphrased by "TG"):

Lee Harvey Oswald, self-defined “Marxist” and self-imagined great thinker that he was, may have chosen to go to Russia on his own initiative, and your “probable KGB mole,” Bruce Solie, may not have sent him but been a less-than-stellar desk jockey CIA officer, instead.

If you think Oswald could conceive and execute the JFK assassination on his own, he surely could venture on his own to Russia — a much less intrepid exercise.

My guess is that Oswald had sponsors or confederates for both actions.


Dear “BC,”

Maybe you're right.

“Dour, plodding, risk-averse” Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) might have been doing legitimate CIA business when he . . .

1) . . . ,not on official CIA business, flew to Beirut (home of Kim Philby) in February 1957, shortly after Nosenko’s boss, General Kovshuk (head of the KGB’s efforts against the American Embassy), had gone to Washington as an ostensible diplomat at the Soviet Embassy on a two-year gig but returned to his kept-open-for-him job at KGB headquarters after only ten months and was seen so often in the company of two KGB types near D.C. movie houses that the FBI began referring to them as “The Three Musketeers” -- right about the time that Popov's recently-fired-by-CIA dead drop setter-upper, Edward Ellis Smith, told an inquiring CIA colleague that he was "Spending a lot of time in movie hoses, waiting for a job to open up in California." (The Hoover Institution)

2) . . . flew to Paris twice within thirty days for very short visits -- the first time a couple of weeks before Nosenko “walked in” to the CIA in Geneva in June 1962, and the second time after he’d asked Nosenko some questions (see below) right before Nosenko flew back to Moscow

3) . . . showed up unannounced at CIA safehouse in Geneva on 15 June 1962 to ask Major I mean Lt. Col. I mean Captain Yuri Nosenko about a list of possible moles that Golitsyn had told Angleton about and which naive Angleton had told Solie about (Tennent H. Bagley, who was there, said Nosenko “drew a blank”)

4) . . . was the exclusive recipient of all of the incoming non-CIA cables on Oswald’s defection which, if someone in Solie’s office hadn’t arranged in advance with the Office of Mail Logistics and the Records Integration Division, would have been routed to the Soviet Russia Division

5) . . . pleaded with W. David Slawson in April 1964 for Nosenko to be allowed to testify to the Warren Commission, even though the Soviet Russia Division and CIA Counterintelligence had serious doubts about his bona fides

6) . . . “cleared” Nosenko in October 1968 via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report

7) . . . hid Office of Security files on Oswald from the Church Committee and the HSCA

But then again, maybe not.

-- “TG”

PS What was so hard about former Marine sharpshooter Oswald’s sneaking a disassembled short-rifle, disguised as wrapped-up curtain rods, through a rear entrance of the Texas School Book Depository and up to the already serendipitously created Sniper’s Nest overlooking the motorcade route before work on 22 November 1963?
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