JFK's raised left arm identified at Bethesda

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« Reply #7 on: Today at 05:25:44 PM »
The 26 volumes are a log of all the evidence and data collected before any of it was vetted for probative value or relevance. It was left to the commissioners and the staff lawyers to sort through all that raw data and make sense of it. They did a masterful job of that.

   So the WC came to a conclusion on the assassination of JFK, with 26 VOLUMES of evidence and data Not having been vetted for value or relevance? "Masterful"? More like, "Send In The Clowns".

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« Reply #8 on: Today at 05:26:44 PM »
They did a masterful job of confusing us as to which evidence is valid and which evidence is not.

People who are confused about the 26 volumes have confused themselves by not understanding what the 26 volumes are. It was not intended to be the long version of the WCR. The WC simply put everything they had gathered on the table whether or not it was probative or relevant. It was the job of the WC to go through it and make sense of it. In some cases they had to resolve conflicting evidence, mainly among the witness statements. The witnesses often gave testimony that conflicted with other witnesses and with the hard evidence. The WC was tasked with determining which parts of the eyewitness accounts were probative and which parts were just plain wrong. In the end, their conclusions for the most part were spot on.

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« Reply #9 on: Today at 05:34:48 PM »
   So the WC came to a conclusion on the assassination of JFK, with 26 VOLUMES of evidence and data Not having been vetted for value or relevance? "Masterful"? More like, "Send In The Clowns".

The WC and their staff lawyers were the ones that vetted it. The evidence came to them in raw form, completely unvetted. The 26 volumes were not intended to provide conclusions. They were a presentation of what the WCR conclusions were based on. When they came across conflicting evidence, they resolved the conflicts where they could and gave reasons why they would accept one eyewitness account and dismiss the conflicting account.  When they couldn't resolve the conflicts, they said so and gave their reasons why they could not reach a definitive conclusion. That's why they never concluded which of Oswald's 3 shots missed. The Z-film lacked sound and the witness accounts were contradictory.

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« Reply #10 on: Today at 07:16:57 PM »
The WC and their staff lawyers were the ones that vetted it. The evidence came to them in raw form, completely unvetted. The 26 volumes were not intended to provide conclusions. They were a presentation of what the WCR conclusions were based on. When they came across conflicting evidence, they resolved the conflicts where they could and gave reasons why they would accept one eyewitness account and dismiss the conflicting account.  When they couldn't resolve the conflicts, they said so and gave their reasons why they could not reach a definitive conclusion. That's why they never concluded which of Oswald's 3 shots missed. The Z-film lacked sound and the witness accounts were contradictory.

    "The Z-film lacked sound...."  The WC did NOT watch the Z Film. If you're gonna applaud these boobs, you need to bone up on what they elected to do and Not do. They knew viewing the Z-Film would immediately put them in the Jackpot.

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    "The Z-film lacked sound...."  The WC did NOT watch the Z Film. If you're gonna applaud these boobs, you need to bone up on what they elected to do and Not do. They knew viewing the Z-Film would immediately put them in the Jackpot.

Where the hell did you get that idea. They even included individual frames. See CE888+.

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« Reply #12 on: Today at 08:24:38 PM »
Where the hell did you get that idea. They even included individual frames. See CE888+.
Not only did they see the film they got Time/Life to send them the original to examine. It was reportedly much clearer than the copies the WC had. According to David Belin, he and others watched it hundreds of times, over multiple hours.

It was CE 396 and 398.

From Shenon's "A Cruel and Shocking Act."

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« Reply #13 on: Today at 10:10:22 PM »
I just saw on ebay lots of copies of the 26 volumes being sold with the lowest asking price being $2500. A set signed by 3 of the commissioners was asking $6500. I don't know why anyone would shell out thousands of dollars for something that is available online for free. They are also available on DVDs for reasonable prices. Maybe the sets have some collectible value but with so many in circulation, I doubt they have that much value as collectibles. Of course, if I could find a Carcano the same model as Oswald's, I'd probably be willing to shell out a several hundred dollars for it, so I sort of understand people wanting the original printed volumes.