Zapruder film "fakery" and the ED Forum Kooks!

[John Mytton]

   BUMP with respect to, "....ALL these soldiers were struck in the head............"

JonhM

[John Mytton]

According to decades later recall from Brugioni, the following briefing board was not the one he produced on the Saturday night but according to Hofeling, this briefing board came the day after and came directly from Hawkeyeworks(you know, the imaging processing unit "who could do anything", even better than Hollywood could do for the next three decades+). Anyway I digress, if the briefing board teams had access to the original Full Frame Zapruder Film and/or the highly questionable "faked version", according to Brugioni(who was the Duty Officer on the Saturday and Sunday?) had the "finest enlargement equipment in the World!" and wanted to deliver "the best quality we could give them", why on Earth wouldn't Brugioni deliver the entire frame, like what was printed in the 26 volumes? Unless of course they only had the SS copy which as we know didn't include the inter sprocket detail!!



What's also bizarre is Brugioni telling us that he was fully aware of the importance of the full film of the assassination and he is also fully aware that the tape he used to indicate which frame to highlight for his briefing board could damage the film, so he taped frames which were 10 frames away from what he deemed "important", there's no way that any sane professional technician who was aware of the historical significance of the original film would risk in any way, any section of the Zapruder original!! Unless of course Brugioni knew at the time that he had one of many duplicates.



JohnM

[John Corbett]

As we clearly see in the right most frame in the middle row, JFK is in the far right side of the seat. How did he end up there if he went "back and to the left"?

[John Mytton]

After looking at the above briefing board, I noticed what at first seemed to be a sprocket hole on the lower left corner of Z314, which could add evidence that the Zapruder film that they had on the 23rd was the unmasked original. So I had a look online for the SS copy and the best I could find was from a video posted by "The JFK Theorist" but frustratingly he wasn't sure where he got it from.

"NOTICE: video 87.38 is NOT sourced from the National Archives, but I cannot remember where it originates from. I added it as a replacement because 87.38 is not available online and probably will not be for a while. I cannot and will not confirm that the replacement is the same as 87.38, but I believe it is extremely similar and originates from the Secret Service, presumably the Dallas Secret Service."
The JFK Theorist-YouTube.



Anyway, I used this copy and overlayed the Z314 from the briefing board to see if the sprocket hole lined up with the respective Z314 and the holes don't line up.



But what is interesting is that instead of cropping the original at the limit of the sprocket holes, the briefing board Z314 was cropped on the LHS at the exact limit of the masked off area, on what is most probably a copy of the SS original. Also worth noting is that after reviewing several images of 8mm film that has the sprocket holes masked off by the camera or by post processing, this left edge isn't always consistent in relation to the sprocket holes. And additionally, the briefing board photo wasn't exactly square, so I applied corrective software to square it up with Z314 and TBH it's still fractionally off but insignificant enough as to not affect the above conclusion.



JohnM

[John Mytton]

As we clearly see in the right most frame in the middle row, JFK is in the far right side of the seat. How did he end up there if he went "back and to the left"?

Yep, and I've asked numerous CT's to explain how a shooter on the Knoll shoots a bullet through Kennedy's right temple and then have it emerge on the right hand side of the back of Kennedy's head which magically sends him back and to the left??
A true magic bullet!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

JohnM

[Michael Capasse]

So the entire film is not in the WC record. Only frames 171-334 - the WC film was a Secret Service Copy
The quality was horrible as were most photographs that went in - one only has to look at them. Many pictures were cropped or left out completely.
The first frame they showed Zapruder was 185. He too made a comment about the sub-par quality

"...Of course, on the film they could see better but you take an 8 millimeter and you enlarge it in color or in black and white, you lose a lot of detail. I wish I had an enlarger here for you."

[Royell Storing]

After looking at the above briefing board, I noticed what at first seemed to be a sprocket hole on the lower left corner of Z314, which could add evidence that the Zapruder film that they had on the 23rd was the unmasked original. So I had a look online for the SS copy and the best I could find was from a video posted by "The JFK Theorist" but frustratingly he wasn't sure where he got it from.

NOTICE: video 87.38 is NOT sourced from the National Archives, but I cannot remember where it originates from. I added it as a replacement because 87.38 is not available online and probably will not be for a while. I cannot and will not confirm that the replacement is the same as 87.38, but I believe it is extremely similar and originates from the Secret Service, presumably the Dallas Secret Service.



Anyway, I used this copy and overlayed the Z314 from the briefing board to see if the sprocket hole lined up with the respective Z314 and the holes don't line up.



But what is interesting is that instead of cropping the original at the limit of the sprocket holes, the briefing board Z314 was cropped on the LHS at the exact limit of the masked off area, on what is most probably a copy of the SS original. Also worth noting is that after reviewing several images of 8mm film that has the sprocket holes masked off by the camera or by post processing, this left edge isn't always consistent in relation to the sprocket holes. And additionally, the briefing board photo wasn't exactly square, so I applied corrective software to square it up with Z314 and TBH it's still fractionally off but insignificant enough as to not affect the above conclusion.



JohnM

   That Sunday Briefing Board Crew were "D Lister's". Who would give their best material/Original Z Film to a group of "D Lister's"?  Well, other than Time/Life who putzed around with "D Lister's" to the point of burning their $150,000 Z Film?