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Did LHO fire a shot that missed everything? If so, when did he fire it?
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on June 12, 2026, 02:32:44 PM ---The observation that Oswald missed the entire limo is a red herring because it implies that the limo was his target making missing the entire limo seem highly improbable. The truth is Oswald's target was on he extreme right side of the limo meaning a miss to the right of his intended target would miss the limo entirely. It's still a significant miss but given the difficulties of that shot, it is certainly understandable.
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You are ignoring the angle. If he just missed JFK he would have hit the side of the car. Here is what it looked like in the Secret Service reenactment as the car passed under the traffic light from the perspective of the SN:
So a miss of the car is actually a significant miss of about half a car width.
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on June 12, 2026, 04:39:05 AM ---What was the angular velocity of JFK's head at "Z-124" (i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133) from Oswald's point of view in the 6th floor window?
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Assuming a 12.5 mph speed (18.3 fps) that would be 1 foot per frame (55 ms). At that point the car was about 50 feet from a point on the street directly below the SN, which was 60 feet above the street. That puts the SN 78 feet from JFK. If JFK was moving at right angles to the sightline from the SN that would result in the maximum angular speed. The car was moving at an angle greater than 90 relative to the SN (angle between green lines is about 112 degrees):
That would be an angle of arcsin(1/78) or .73 degrees in 55 ms or 13.35 degrees per second. Since it was moving away on an angle it would have been a bit less than that.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Andrew Mason on June 12, 2026, 05:20:28 PM ---You are ignoring the angle. If he just missed JFK he would have hit the side of the car. Here is what it looked like in the Secret Service reenactment as the car passed under the traffic light from the perspective of the SN:
So a miss of the car is actually a significant miss of about half a car width.
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The reenactment film made the same mistake you did with your sketch. It has JFK too far to the left. JFK had his elbow resting on he side of the car. The reenactor has his arm entirely inside the car. There is no question Oswald missed JFK by a significant amount but given he inherent difficulty of he shot, it certainly is not an unreasonable miss.
Kevin Balch:
So where is the ricochet damage to the limousine?
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZEyDGxJwAk
If the shot was fired from the Dal-Tex building, it could have continued on parallel to the limo. But the Dal-Tex building was thoroughly searched and anyone inside was thoroughly questioned.
John Corbett:
The ballistic team of Luke and Michael Haag did experiments which showed Oswald's bullet would not have ricocheted off the pavement. It would have created a small crater in the asphalt and the bullet would have been pulverized. The crater in the asphalt would have been smoothed out by environmental forces within days of the bullet striking the pavement.
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/video/the-shot-that-missed/
They also tested to see if the oak tree could have caused any deflection of the bullet. Their experiments indicated there would be very little deflection.
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