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Did LHO fire a shot that missed everything? If so, when did he fire it?
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Kevin Balch on June 12, 2026, 03:04:12 AM ---Who said anything about trying to shoot the limo? What I was saying is that it is hard to see how a shot that missed the target (presumably JFK) would also miss the limo.
There is speculation that the shallow back wound was a result of an underpowered bullet that was either defective or deliberately underpowered to leave intact ballistic evidence to frame Oswald. I don’t believe either. The shallow back wound was due to either incompetence of the autopsy doctors or a bullet that made a sudden change in direction inside the body.
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While viewing the Secret Service reenactment film, Brian Roselle spotted a mark in the pavement that would have been very close to JFK at "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on June 12, 2026, 02:35:10 AM ---I like the idea of the shooter using an MC rifle with the scope mounted left side of the stock might cause a near miss to the right side of the limo if the 1st shot was somewhere between Z140-Z170. If he is using the scope that is.
If he’s using the iron sights for the 1st shot I’m not so sure he would have missed JFK that far off to the right even if the sights were fixed zero for 200 yds.
The compromise would be the shooter used the scope for the first shot then when he saw he missed to the right, he switched to using the iron sights.
I’m not really convinced of any shot fired prior to Z224 because of lack of reaction by Willis or Betzner or SS agents other than Hickey at Z140ish. The missed shot would have be 2 secs after Z313 if it’s the bolt action rifle. I’m
Sure Dan would agree but I’m not sure if anyone else does 😳
The only other option besides another gunman, is the TSBD shooter using a semi auto rifle or a rifle like Chuck Connor’s The Rifleman. ( he fires 12 shots in about 6 seconds).
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What was the angular velocity of JFK's head at "Z-124" (i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133) from Oswald's point of view in the 6th floor window?
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on June 12, 2026, 04:17:26 AM ---While viewing the Secret Service reenactment film, Brian Roselle spotted a mark in the pavement that would have been very close to JFK at "Z-124," i.e., half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming (after a 17-second pause) at Z-133.
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So why can no one else see it in the same film?
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Kevin Balch on June 12, 2026, 03:04:12 AM ---Who said anything about trying to shoot the limo? What I was saying is that it is hard to see how a shot that missed the target (presumably JFK) would also miss the limo.
There is speculation that the shallow back wound was a result of an underpowered bullet that was either defective or deliberately underpowered to leave intact ballistic evidence to frame Oswald. I don’t believe either. The shallow back wound was due to either incompetence of the autopsy doctors or a bullet thst made a sudden change in direction inside the body.
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The observation that Oswald missed the entire limo is a red herring because it implies that the limo was his target making missing the entire limo seem highly improbable. The truth is Oswald's target was on he extreme right side of the limo meaning a miss to the right of his intended target would miss the limo entirely. It's still a significant miss but given the difficulties of that shot, it is certainly understandable.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on June 12, 2026, 02:32:44 PM ---
Earlier, Kevin Balch made he following statement:
"I don’t see how it is possible to have missed the limo. Even if it was a severely undercharged bullet, it still should have hit within 2 feet of the target."
The observation that Oswald missed the entire limo is a red herring because it implies that the limo was his target making missing the entire limo seem highly improbable. The truth is Oswald's target was on the extreme right side of the limo meaning a miss to the right of his intended target would miss the limo entirely. It's still a significant miss but given the difficulties of that shot, it is certainly understandable.
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