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Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Robin Unger on April 24, 2026, 01:59:37 AM ---Quote: A few frames before Oswald's first (missing-everything) shot at "Z-124."

What is Oswald shooting at in Frame: Z-124 ?

--- End quote ---

Dear Robin,

I guess you didn't notice that I'd put "scare quotes" around Z-124.

My writing "Z-124" in quotation marks signifies where the limo would have been in Zapruder if he hadn't paused filming for 17 seconds between Z-132 and Z-133.

If you think it will help you to understand, in the future I'll write "hypothetical Z-124" instead of "'Z-124'".

Do you think that would help?

-- Tom

Robin Unger:

--- Quote from: Tom Graves on April 24, 2026, 02:08:42 AM ---Dear Robin,

I guess you didn't notice that I'd put "scare quotes" around the number 124.

My writing "Z-124" in quotation marks signifies where the limo would have been in Zapruder if he hadn't paused filming for 17 seconds between Z-132 and Z-133.

If you think it will help you to understand, in the future I'll write "hypothetical Z-124" instead of "'Z-124'".

-- Tom

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OK Tom.

Thanks for the Clarification.

So you were talking "hypothetically"

Marjan Rynkiewicz:
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2862.0.html

Here is in effect Towner frame T138, which is missing in Robin Unger's gallery. He shows T137 T139 T141 T142.
T138 & T140 are missing. And T143 never happened -- the last frame was T142 (i think).
So, here below is in effect frame T138, a printscreen from i think the Museum's online Tina footage.
Oswald's shot-1 was at Z112, say T137.
Slug hit signal arm (& fragments hit JFK) at Z113, say T138.

We know that Z113 was at T138 koz Nellie Connally is level with the end of the white painted road stripe, in the re-enactment footage, & in Tina's footage.

Sound hit Tina at Z114, say T139.
Tina hears bang at say T141.
Tina possibly had a non-voluntary startle reaction to the bang at say T143 (except that she stopped filming at T142).
Tina possibly had a voluntary fright reaction to the bang at say T145.






Here below are some more printscreens.

Royell Storing:


   The Zapruder Film is the ONLY Film capturing the JFK Limo from the (N) side of Elm St. No other film comes close to having the perspective of the Zapruder Film. It's pointless listing all these other assassination films with respect to the JFK Limo turning onto Elm St. 

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Royell Storing on April 24, 2026, 03:14:20 AM ---The Zapruder film is the only film capturing the JFK limo from the north side of Elm Street. No other film comes close to having the perspective of the Zapruder film. It's pointless listing all these other assassination films with respect to the JFK limo's turning onto Elm Street.

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Dear Royell,

News flash:

Zapruder didn't film the limo as it was turning onto Elm Street.

He didn't resume filming -- after a 17-second pause -- until a few seconds after it had completed its turn.

-- Tom

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