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Interview With JFK Assassination Witness Mary Lea Williams In Dealey Plaza
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: Robin Unger on April 23, 2026, 10:32:45 PM ---That figure was generally referred to as "Shadow Man"
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"Shadow Man" has been speculated to be James Files in the process of exiting Dealey Plaza.The Bothun Photo is around 1 minute after the kill shot. If this lady took cover behind the short wall, and then decided to leave, Shadow Man could be her. But, if All of the shots were coming from the TSBD, why would she seek cover on that side of the wall? That wall would Not provide cover from shots being fired from the TSBD sniper's nest.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: John Mytton on April 23, 2026, 03:43:12 PM ---Let's grant that Zapruder filmed the limo turning into Elm.
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Wrong.
IIRC, the limo was already about 70 feet down Elm Street when Zapruder resumed filming at Z-133.
--- Quote ---Nothing of any consequence happened until the limo was way down Elm Street.
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Probably wrong.
The conscious and nearly synchronous reactions of seven prime witnesses (including JFK, Jackie, and JBC) to the sounds of Oswald' first, missing-everything, shot indicate that it was probably fired at "Z-124," half-a-second before Zapruder resumed filming.
Robin Unger:
Regarding the Limo turn onto Elm.
We already have a view of the turn, and it seems to go off without a problem.
At least 3- films show the Limo turning:
Towner, Dorman, Hughes.
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Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Robin Unger on April 24, 2026, 01:23:10 AM ---Regarding the Limo turn onto Elm.
We already have a view of the turn, and it seems to go off without a problem.
At least 3- films show the Limo turning:
Towner, Dorman, Hughes.
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And Towner's clip, IIRC, ends about a second before Zapruder picks up on the action, Dorman's clip is all over the place, and Hughes' clip, like Towner's clip, ends before Oswald fired his first (missing-everything) shot at "Z-124," but does catch his moving around in the Sniper's Nest window in his white t-shirt.
The "problem" didn't occur during the turn, itself, Robin.
The "problem" occurred a couple of seconds later at "Z-124" (see above).
Robin Unger:
Quote: A few frames before Oswald's first (missing-everything) shot at "Z-124."
What is Oswald shooting at in Frame: Z-124 ?
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