Nova "Cold Case" JFK

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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Nova "Cold Case" JFK
« Reply #7 on: Today at 12:04:25 AM »
Part way throo Nova, at 6:55 Clint Hill says some silly stuff.
CH did not hear Oswald's first shot at say pseudo Z110, koz CH says that CH heard the first shot from over CH's shoulder at which time jfk grabbed at jfk's throat.
Then CH correctly says that there woz a shot that CH did not hear, while CH was running (this woz of course the headshot at Z312).
Then CH says that CH heard a shot az CH woz nearing the jfk limo, & CH says that this woz the headshot.
Memory iz fraught.

Online John Corbett

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Re: Nova "Cold Case" JFK
« Reply #8 on: Today at 12:36:15 AM »
Part way throo Nova, at 6:55 Clint Hill says some silly stuff.
CH did not hear Oswald's first shot at say pseudo Z110, koz CH says that CH heard the first shot from over CH's shoulder at which time jfk grabbed at jfk's throat.
Then CH correctly says that there woz a shot that CH did not hear, while CH was running (this woz of course the headshot at Z312).
Then CH says that CH heard a shot az CH woz nearing the jfk limo, & CH says that this woz the headshot.
Memory iz fraught.

Yes it is.

I have to believe that the shot Clint Hill did not hear was the first shot and the first shot he heard was actually the second shot which struck JFK in the back.

It's hard to understand why some people did not seem to hear the first shot. Either that or did not recognize it as a gunshot. It might be because of the roar of the motorcycles accelerating out of the sharp turn onto Elm St. muffled the sound of that first shot. JBC clearly heard it and recognized it for what is was. Jack and Jackie seem not to have noticed. Perhaps that is because they were a bit closer to the motorcycles. Who knows.

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Re: Nova "Cold Case" JFK
« Reply #9 on: Today at 12:51:07 AM »
At 23:47 we see SSA Hickey sitting in the rear of a limo to help with the SBT alignment tests. Hickey fired the shot at Z312.
Sturdivan reckoned that the head entry woz actually very low, ie where originally claimed, not high up.
Ok, the big lie that i see. At 49:57 they say that Carcano bullets deformed in skulls in tests. Bullshit.
They of course did not show us the deformed or fragmented test bullets.


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Re: Nova "Cold Case" JFK
« Reply #10 on: Today at 12:22:18 PM »
At 23:47 we see SSA Hickey sitting in the rear of a limo to help with the SBT alignment tests. Hickey fired the shot at Z312.
Sturdivan reckoned that the head entry woz actually very low, ie where originally claimed, not high up.
Ok, the big lie that i see. At 49:57 they say that Carcano bullets deformed in skulls in tests. Bullshit.
They of course did not show us the deformed or fragmented test bullets.

Hickey did not fire the headshot. Caraco bullets will deform when striking something hard, like the dense bone of a human skull. We know that because there was a shattered bullet found on the floor of the limo and two of those fragments had sufficient markings to positively match them to Oswald's Carcano. Why would you need to see the deformed test bullets when we have the evidence of the deformed Carcano bullet taken from the actual shooting.

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Re: Nova "Cold Case" JFK
« Reply #11 on: Today at 02:20:41 PM »
Hickey did not fire the headshot. Caraco bullets will deform when striking something hard, like the dense bone of a human skull. We know that because there was a shattered bullet found on the floor of the limo and two of those fragments had sufficient markings to positively match them to Oswald's Carcano. Why would you need to see the deformed test bullets when we have the evidence of the deformed Carcano bullet taken from the actual shooting.
The 2 half jackets found in the jfk limo were from Oswald's first shot which ricocheted offa the signal arm at pseudo Z105-110.
When i watched the Nova footage i woz hoping to see Haag's tests for ricochet offa a 2 inch pipe, which i had uzed a few years ago to develop my theory. But i woz disappointed to find that Nova did not include Haag's ricochet tests.
Haag's witness board showed three kinds of ricochet. (1) the remnant lead slug (which made a hole in the floor of the limo). (2) the copper jacket, in 2 pieces, koz Carcano slug jackets were made in 2 pieces, hence they fragmented into 2 pieces (found in limo). (3) A lead spray splatter (which was seen in xrays of jfk skull.
My analysis showed that Oswald's shot-1 ricochet must hav included one of the steel side struts. And my analysis showed that Oswald was not aiming for Connally.
I think that i hav lost Haag's ricochet test info.
I feel sure that no-one will ever show me/u/us a badly deformed Carcano slug that has been deformed by a skull, or a badly fragmented Carcano slug that has been fragmented by a skull.
I seem to recall that there are lots of youtubes showing similar slugs passing throo windshield glass & suffering near zero damage.
And footage of slugs passing throo windshields & then test jelly & suffering no bad damage.
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Re: Nova "Cold Case" JFK
« Reply #12 on: Today at 03:54:49 PM »

   I know you guys and Cronkite enjoy echoing the Nova "test" stuff Ad nauseam. But, how about just telling this Forum what YOU see? Do you see: (1) A Pristine Bullet/CE 399? (2) JFK's head explode on contact?  People want to rely on the JFK Assassination "images" until they don't.