The All-Important Curtain Rods

[Martin Weidmann]

My point, re: the OP...

If the curtain rods were important enough to require a special Thursday trip, then they would have been important enough to grab before leaving the Depository building to head home (since work was cancelled for the day).

If I follow your logic, it only shows that the curtain rods story is likely of no importance, beyond possibly the fact that Oswald used it to justify his Thursday trip to Irving to Frazier in order to avoid having to tell him the real reason for the trip.

[Bill Brown]

If I follow your logic, it only shows that the curtain rods story is likely of no importance, beyond possibly the fact that Oswald used it to justify his Thursday trip to Irving to Frazier in order to avoid having to tell him the real reason for the trip.

It's fascinating to me that you speculate like this in one breath (which is perfectly fine) and then in the next breath you criticize another member for speculating. 

[Martin Weidmann]

It's fascinating to me that you speculate like this in one breath (which is perfectly fine) and then in the next breath you criticize another member for speculating.

Stating an obvious fact isn't criticizing. Only a person who feels he is right when he is actually speculating considers it criticizing. Tell me you are speculating and you have no problem with me.

Both sides are speculating. Which is exactly why nobody can say with any kind of certainty what actually happened, yet you and others do exactly that all the time. Go figure.

[David Von Pein]

It should be pointed out that while the CTs remain in the majority, few of them doubt that Oswald was at least one of the shooters in DP that day. It's a small cult that believe Oswald was actually innocent.

You might be correct when taking ALL "CTers" into account (beyond just the people who populate the Internet), but in my experience in dealing with many CTers at Internet forums, I would say that the vast majority of conspiracy theorists I have encountered believe that Oswald didn't shoot anybody on 11/22.

Based on my interactions with online CTers, the "Oswald Didn't Shoot Anyone" club certainly isn't merely a "small cult". And based on all the ridiculous "LHO Shot No One" comments that I get nearly every day at my JFK YouTube Channel, it seems to me that almost 100% of those people think that Oswald never fired a shot.

[Martin Weidmann]

While you might be correct when taking ALL "CTers" into account. But in my experience in dealing with many CTers at Internet forums, I would say that the vast majority of conspiracy theorists I have encountered believe that Oswald didn't shoot anybody on 11/22.

Based on my interactions with online CTers, the "Oswald Didn't Shoot Anyone" club certainly isn't merely a "small cult". And based on all the ridiculous "LHO Shot No One" comments that I get nearly every day at my JFK YouTube Channel, it seems to me that almost 100% of the people who write comments think that Oswald never fired a shot.

David, earlier in this thread I have replied to your question and asked you a follow up question. Are you now going to ignore my post and not answer?

[David Von Pein]

No, I'm not ignoring you, Martin. I'm putting together my answer to you as we speak. Give me a few more minutes.... 

[David Von Pein]

Here's my question for you, David. Based on all the factual information given above, how do you get to concluding that the heavy duty bag was nevertheless the bag Oswald carried?

Because it fits together perfectly with several other pieces of evidence and witness testimony connected with the JFK case.

Such as:

.... The location where the bag was found, which was a location very near the window from which the President was shot. (And despite the fact that no pictures exist of the bag before it was picked up, multiple police officers did nevertheless testify they did see the bag folded up in the corner, near the Sniper's Nest.)

.... The two finger and palm prints belonging to Lee Oswald that were found on the CE142 paper bag, which prove beyond all reasonable doubt that Oswald was in possession of that particular paper bag at some point in time.

.... The fibers found inside the otherwise empty bag, which were consistent with fibers also present in the blanket that Oswald's rifle was known to have been wrapped in during the time the rifle was being stored in Ruth Paine's garage in Irving.

.... Oswald lies to the police about carrying any large-ish bag to work on 11/22. I can think of no good reason for Oswald to want to lie to the cops about taking a paper bag into the TSBD unless that bag in question contained the Kennedy murder weapon. After all, curtain rods can't very well be considered a deadly weapon, can they?

And when we combine all of the above things with the critical fact that Oswald's own rifle (found on that same 6th floor of the TSBD on Nov. 22) was a weapon that positively was used by someone on that day to fire shots at President Kennedy, it's not too difficult to connect the dots.

And I'll again ask this question, which I've asked previously in forum posts but never have received a reasonable answer (or any answer, for that matter):

On any given day of the year (whether it be 11/22/63 or some other day), who is more likely to use Lee Harvey Oswald's very own Carcano rifle .... Lee Oswald himself or some unknown person?