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The Tippit Shooting At 1:15-1:16, FACT
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: Zeon Mason on April 22, 2026, 05:52:39 PM ---They ignored completely my list of questions mainly : WHO found the jacket under the car and WHO found the blue gray jacket in the Domino room and WHY was it found in the Domino room?
It’s like arguing with Copernicus, who would say well , yes, those anomalous planetary motions exist , however they are only a minor discrepancy. . Trust the other Mountain of evidence that the Earth is at the Center of the Universe and that the Pope ( WC ) has concluded the theory is proved beyond reasonable doubt.
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Spot on Zeon.
They always ignore critical questions or refuse to answer them.
Michael Capasse:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 17, 2026, 10:24:19 PM ---Earlene Roberts account is probably one of the least important pieces of evidence we have. She said Oswald came and went ABOUT 1:00. I have no reason to doubt that. She said he had his jacket on. While I have no reason to doubt that either, I wouldn't take it to the bank solely her word. The fact Oswald was seen throwing the jacket under a car and a jacket was retrieved from there that was identified belonging to him is enough for me. It witl never be enough for the dedicated CTs. They aren't in search of answers. Their game is to come up with excuses to reject evidence. Like Oswald's jacket that was found under the car.
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That's talking out of two sides of your mouth.
"I don't take much in Roberts, but she did she a jacket."
--- Quote from: John Corbett on April 17, 2026, 10:24:19 PM ---The fact Oswald was seen throwing the jacket under a car....
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who saw that?
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Michael Capasse on April 22, 2026, 07:07:32 PM ---That's talking out of two sides of your mouth.
"I don't take much in Roberts, but she did she a jacket."
If you're going to quote me, please dos so accurately. I said:
"She said he had his jacket on. While I have no reason to doubt that either, I wouldn't take it to the bank solely her word."
There is a technique known as "COPY AND PASTE". If you learned how to do that, you wouldn't have to lie about what I said.
who saw that?
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It's been a number of years since I discussed this aspect and I wrote that from memory so I may have overstated the case. Here is what I found from Dale Myers's website:
"The first mention of a “discarded jacket” occurred at about 1:23 p.m., when sergeants Calvin B. Owens, Gerald L. Hill, and assistant D.A. William F. “Bill” Alexander rolled up at Tenth and Patton. As they arrived, they were approached by an unidentified man who told them that Tippit’s killer had “thrown down his jacket” in the 400 block of East Jefferson – the area of the Texaco service station. [39] (More on this, later.)"
So I will concede that no one is on record as having seen Oswald toss the jacket under the car. The fact is that Oswald's jacket was found under a car and I think we can conclude it didn't get there by PFM (pure freeking magic)
Zeon Mason:
Before Bill notices my mistake ( he’s good at that lol) I’m correcting it myself. PTOLEMY was the astronomer who advocated Earth at the Center of the Universe theory.
Copernicus placed the sun at the center of his planetary model of “perfect” circular orbits which seemed to solve SOME of the earlier planetary motions unexplained by the Ptolemy model but there were still some unexplained motions of planets such as Mars.
So I’m not saying Bill is entirely wrong. The WC theory may be almost as correct as the Copernicus model was thought to be and it just needs to be tweaked and throw out all the evidence which cannot be verified by someone recorded as the original finder of that evidence.
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: Michael Capasse on April 22, 2026, 07:07:32 PM ---That's talking out of two sides of your mouth.
"I don't take much in Roberts, but she did she a jacket."
who saw that?
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You have to admire their flawed logic;
Earlene Roberts is "probably one of the least important pieces of evidence we have".... "She said he had his jacket on" and he has no reason to doubt what Roberts said.
Never mind there is no corroboration for it, like the kind he demands for Buell Frazier, and Roberts's employer calls her not credible!
"The fact Oswald was seen throwing the jacket under a car and a jacket was retrieved from there that was identified belonging to him is enough for me."
Never mind that there is no chain of custody to show that the white jacket found under the car is the same as the grey jacket that Oswald owned
Even less so when the DPD dispatcher said;
Wanted for investigation for assault to murder on a police officer: A white male; approximately thirty; about five foot eight; slender build; has black hair; a white jacket; a white shirt and dark trousers. The suspect last seen running west on Jefferson from 400 East Jefferson. 1:24
And the officer (279) calling in the find said;
We believe we've got this suspect on shooting this officer out here. Got his white jacket. Believe he dumped it on this parking lot behind this service station at 400 block East Jefferson across from Dudley Hughes and he had a white jacket on. We believe this is it.
And then;
"So I will concede that no one is on record as having seen Oswald toss the jacket under the car."
So, if nobody saw Oswald leave a jacket under the car, and the suspect was wearing a white shirt (which Oswald didn't) where does that leave him with the "I have no reason to doubt Roberts" BS
And then it comes;
The fact is that Oswald's jacket was found under a car and I think we can conclude it didn't get there by PFM
So a jacket was found under a car and an officer believed it was the suspect's jacket (and wearing a white shirt) is all he has got left!
And it would indeed have been PFM for Oswald's grey jacket (CE 162) to be found under a car in Oak Cliff and being described as white, when there is evidence that places that grey jacket in Irving on Thursday evening!
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