Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #322 on: Yesterday at 01:14:40 PM »
You must be right because if that was the first shot that JFK is reacting to then JBC would not be reacting to being hit by it as he "clearly" is doing by z228.  If it was the first shot JBC would be reacting to it by turning around to try to see JFK and then shouting "oh, no, no" (as Nellie said he did before the second shot and, as Jackie said, this drew her attention to the Governor). And we can see that there is nothing like that occurring after z226.

Why would any sensible person put any credence in anything Nellie had to say. She was probably the worst witness in Dealey Plaza that day. Almost nothing she said was correct.

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« Reply #323 on: Yesterday at 01:27:52 PM »
And then you look at the career of someone like Kuchar or Furyk and say, "How is this possible?"

For a tall guy,, Kuchar has one of the flattest swings on the tour. Furyk is just the opposite with a nearly vertical backswing. The guy I could never understand is Steve Stricker. He has almost no wrist cock but somehow generates enough power to be competitive. He's not one of the longest hitters but he's long enough.
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One of my favorite stories is from the early says of the senior tour, when unlikely characters like Walt Zembriski were winning. There was a phenomenon of 50+ year olds who said, "I've played to a 2 handicap for years just hitting balls on Wednesday and playing on Sunday. I'll bet if I worked at it 7 days a week, I could compete out there." So they'd quit their insurance jobs and study, practice and play 7 days a week. At the end of the year, their handicap was now 5.  :D I'm going to play today at a course where I have shot par 72 once and 73 numerous times. 76 would be my age. I will be happy with 85.

Earlier on, Zembriski qualified for the US Open. He was in the locker room when Tom Weiskopf saw him and thought he was the locker room attendant and handed his shoes to Zembriski to be cleaned. Zembriski told him, "I'm not the locker room attendant. I'm a player and I believe I'm a shot ahead of you."

The guy I remember from the early days of the senior tour was Charlie Owens. I think his left knee was fused so that it couldn't bend and he played cross handed but he won a tournament. He wouldn't have been able to compete if they didn't allow the seniors to ride carts. I think they still can but you don't see many of them doing it any more.
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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #324 on: Yesterday at 04:19:14 PM »
Why would any sensible person put any credence in anything Nellie had to say. She was probably the worst witness in Dealey Plaza that day. Almost nothing she said was correct.
Let' see:
Her evidence conflicts with the SBT. 

Nellie's evidence doesn't conflict with the 20+ witnesses who said that JFK reacted to the first shot. It doesn't conflict with the motorcade witnesses, photographers and people standing along Elm St. who put the first shot after z186. It doesn't conflict with Gayle Newman who said that JBC was turned sideways when the second shot sounded. It doesn't conflict with the evidence of Greer or Hickey or Altgens.

Conclusion:?... 

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #325 on: Yesterday at 07:47:45 PM »
Let' see:
Her evidence conflicts with the SBT. 

Nellie's evidence doesn't conflict with the 20+ witnesses who said that JFK reacted to the first shot. It doesn't conflict with the motorcade witnesses, photographers and people standing along Elm St. who put the first shot after z186. It doesn't conflict with Gayle Newman who said that JBC was turned sideways when the second shot sounded. It doesn't conflict with the evidence of Greer or Hickey or Altgens.

Conclusion:?...

I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to dissuade you from your foolish theory. Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Nobody is buying it.

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Re: Gov. John Connally Grips His White Stetson Hat at Z-272
« Reply #326 on: Today at 12:48:09 AM »
I'm not going to waste any more of my time trying to dissuade you from your foolish theory. Believe whatever the hell you want to believe. Nobody is buying it.

I’m going to keep an open mind about it until I can prove beyond doubt that it is as ludicrous as it appears to be or until Andrew proves it via
rigorous demonstration that 3/4ths of LNs agree with. 😬

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« Reply #327 on: Today at 12:58:09 AM »
I’m going to keep an open mind about it until I can prove beyond doubt that it is as ludicrous as it appears to be

I reached that point a long time ago. Sometime in 2008 when Andrew was trying to peddle his fantasy on John McAdams discussion group. Nobody was buying it back then either. His goofy ideas haven't improved with age.
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...or until Andrew proves it via rigorous demonstration that 3/4ths of LNs agree with. 😬

That is not even a remote possibility.