On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 32, The Single-Bullet Theory Panel Discussion

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Offline Fred Litwin

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On the Trail of Delusion, Episode 32, The Single-Bullet Theory Panel Discussion

This was a ton of fun with our panel of Fred James, Scott Maudsley, Dr. Martin Kelly, and Dr. Nick Nalli.



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Great episode, Fred.  There was way too much common sense being thrown around for the conspiracy crowd to handle.

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They mention the lapel flip at 34:50. There are some good comments re what/how a slug might cause the lapel flip (but no mention of jacket bulge). Anyhow they do not mention that Lattimer wrote that the lapel flip needed a big bulge & that a bulge needed lots of outshoot debris & that that needed a yawing/tumbling slug at exit, & that that needed the slug to pass throo a jfk firstly.

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They mention the lapel flip at 34:50. There are some good comments re what/how a slug might cause the lapel flip (but no mention of jacket bulge). Anyhow they do not mention that Lattimer wrote that the lapel flip needed a big bulge & that a bulge needed lots of outshoot debris & that that needed a yawing/tumbling slug at exit, & that that needed the slug to pass throo a jfk firstly.

The oblong entry wound on JBC's back and the flattening of the bullet at the base, not the nose of the bullet is proof positive the bullet was yawing after it exited from JFK's throat.

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Well, I will say what I always say, and that is my layman's view of the Z-film shows Gov. Connally shot ~Z-295, and JFK at Z-313. About one second apart.

The SBT requires that JBC, after being shot through the chest, having his right wrist fractured, and a slug burrow into his left leg...only then did JBC a 180-degree turn in his seat to look for JFK. 

But, in real life, JBC described turning around to look for JFK after hearing the first shot. And then getting struck by a shot he did not hear as he began to face forward again. That is accurate, IMHO, fro my review of the Z-film.

Then there is this:

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)


That happens about ~Z-295. JBC describes himself as immediately incapacitated by the shot that struck him. No 180-degree turn.

From this, I deduce there was a second gunsel behind the JFK limo. The GK smoke-and-bang show may have been another gunsel, or a diversion. Or kids playing with firecrackers.

LHO remains the most likely suspect for the TSBD6 sniper. Indeed, LHO is the only JFKA suspect known beyond reasonable doubt to have been in Dealey Plaza 11.22. This makes unraveling the JFKA almost impossible.

I do not know who were LHO's confederates or handlers on 11.22. Might have been Alpha 66'ers, or G2, or G2 plants in Alpha 66, double agents.

Likely the plot in its entirety was three people, LHO the other gunsel and the GK player.

Such a small plot was hard to detect, even after the event. LHO was soon dead. Maybe even a patsy of sorts.

---30---

Of course, we all know Mossad perped the JFKA. Just ask Jeff Morley. Mossad was tight with James Jesus Angleton...so you know...that's a fact pattern.




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The Zapruder film shows that Governor Connally shot around Z-295 and JFK was shot at Z-313. 

You're mistaken, because you lend far too much credence to the traumatized memory of the highly-confident-by-definition politician known as Governor John B. Connally, and because you fail to acknowledge the fact that Connally started turning far to his right around Z-164 to see where the first, missing-everything, shot had come from (he knew from the sound that it was behind him) and to see, by glancing over his right shoulder, if JFK was okay.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z164.jpg

But couldn't "see" JFK over his right shoulder because by Z-175 JFK had turned his head far to his right and raised his forearm and hand to wave to someone.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z175.jpg

Connally (and JFK, of course) were then hit from behind at approximately Z-222 as Connally was just starting to turn back to his left with the intention of looking over his left shoulder to see where the shot had come from and whether or not JFK was okay, but he only got about 20 degrees there in his intended 200-degree rotation.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z222.jpg

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Online Benjamin Cole

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TG-

We have belabored this point a few times.

I match Gov. JBC's testimony to the Z-film.

But even without JBC's testimony (and that of his wife), to my layman's eye, JBC is shot at ~z-295 and is indeed a bit pushed forward by the blow---which took out four inches of rub, and thus was meeting resistance as it passed through his body. (It is true, sometimes bullets will pass through a body, while the body remains relatively still, if only soft flesh or organs are struck).

JBC appears entirely uninjured right up ~Z-295.

I could on---JBC's surgeon said his opinion was that a separate bullet had struck JBC from the one that passed through JFK. Dr. Shaw had worked on 700 wartime gunshot victims.

Caveat emptor, and draw you own conclusions.




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TG-

We have belabored this point a few times.

I match Gov. JBC's testimony to the Z-film.

But even without JBC's testimony (and that of his wife), to my layman's eye, JBC is shot at ~z-295 and is indeed a bit pushed forward by the blow---which took out four inches of rub, and thus was meeting resistance as it passed through his body. (It is true, sometimes bullets will pass through a body, while the body remains relatively still, if only soft flesh or organs are struck).

JBC appears entirely uninjured right up ~Z-295.

I could on---JBC's surgeon said his opinion was that a separate bullet had struck JBC from the one that passed through JFK. Dr. Shaw had worked on 700 wartime gunshot victims.

Caveat emptor, and draw you own conclusions.

LOL!