JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate > JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate
Mark Lane and Charles Brehm
Tom Graves:
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I wish Duncan would reinstate the "Delete" button, because I oftentimes click "Quote" by mistake instead of "Modify" (as I did just now), and I end up with semi-duplicate posts.
LOL!
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 24, 2026, 10:05:26 PM ---The problem with that interpretation is that in his first interview, JBC said he looked over his left shoulder and saw the President had slumped as if it was all part of the same motion. Clearly, JBC did not turn far enough to the left to see that nor even after he turned to his right.
Much of what he described afterward is fairly accurate with one minor detail. In his later tellings of the story, he said he started to turn back toward the front, which is true, and he was facing almost directly forward when he felt the shot hit him in the back. He did in fact reach a forward facing position but not until the bullet had already struck him. He then turned back to his right and doubled over in reaction to being hit. Here again, I believe his later recollections were influenced by what he had seen in the Z-film. He saw himself doubled over in the late Z230s and saw he had reached a forward facing position at about Z230 and figured that was about when he was hit. He was actually hit less than a half second earlier which was followed almost immediately by his involuntary, reflexive arm flip at Z226. He didn't even remember being hit in the wrist but that event along with the jacket bulge two frames earlier give us the best indication of when the single bullet struck. Z226 is also the frame JFK made a similar involuntary, reflexive response to being hit by suddenly raising both arms.
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I recall that Connally early on mentioned that the first shot was just after they straightened in Elm.
And that the first shot did not hit him.
And he contradicted both statements for ever after.
I recall that zapruder duznt show bulge, it merely shows the lapel flip.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Marjan Rynkiewicz on March 25, 2026, 12:18:26 AM ---
I recall that Connally early on mentioned that the first shot was just after they straightened in Elm.
And that the first shot did not hit him.
And he contradicted both statements for ever after.
I recall that Zapruder doesn't show the bulge, it merely shows the lapel flip.
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1) Connally eventually admitted that the first shot may have missed everything and that he and JFK may have been hit by the second shot.
JFKA conspiracy theorist John Simkin, himself, posted the following at the so-called JFK Assassination Debate -- Education Forum:
On 26th June 1967, John and Nellie Connally gave an interview to Walter Cronkite and Eddie Barker on CBS Television:
Walter Cronkite: The most persuasive critic of the single-bullet theory is the man who might be expected to know best, the victim himself, Texas Governor John Connally. Although he accepts the Warren Report's conclusion that Oswald did all the shooting, he has never believed that the first bullet could have hit both the President and himself.
John Connally: The only way that I could ever reconcile my memory of what happened and what occurred, with respect to the one bullet theory, is that it had to be the second bullet that might have hit us both.
Eddie Barker: Do you believe, Governor Connally, that the first bullet could have missed, the second one hit both of you, and the third one hit President Kennedy?
John Connally: That's possible. That's possible.
2) The Zapruder films shows both the jacket bulge and the lapel flip.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on March 25, 2026, 01:02:11 AM ---1) Connally eventually admitted that the first shot may have missed everything and that he and JFK may have been hit by the second shot.
JFKA conspiracy theorist John Simkin, himself, posted the following at his so-called JFK Assassination Debate -- Education Forum:
On 26th June 1967, John and Nellie Connally gave an interview to Walter Cronkite and Eddie Barker on CBS Television:
Walter Cronkite: The most persuasive critic of the single-bullet theory is the man who might be expected to know best, the victim himself, Texas Governor John Connally. Although he accepts the Warren Report's conclusion that Oswald did all the shooting, he has never believed that the first bullet could have hit both the President and himself.
John Connally: The only way that I could ever reconcile my memory of what happened and what occurred, with respect to the one bullet theory, is that it had to be the second bullet that might have hit us both.
Eddie Barker: Do you believe, Governor Connally, that the first bullet could have missed, the second one hit both of you, and the third one hit President Kennedy?
John Connally: That's possible. That's possible.
2) The Zapruder films shows both the jacket bulge and the lapel flip.
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Jarrett Smith:
Getting back to Brehm, he said shot one hit JFK in neck, shot two hit him in head, and shot three was fired after the head shot. So that leaves the shot Connally heard before Z-224.
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