JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion & Debate > JFK Assassination Plus General Discussion And Debate
Mark Lane and Charles Brehm
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
Oswald's first shot ricochet (at pseudo Z110 say) hurt jfk koz jfk said my god i am hit (or some such).
Oswald's 2nd shot (at Z218) damaged jfk's throat etc, hence jfk could not speak.
Hickey's last shot (of hiz say 4 or 5 or 6 auto shots) at Z312 blew the top off jfk's head.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 24, 2026, 11:38:39 AM ---Connally's reaction began at Z164 when he began to turn to his right.
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According to Roselle and Scearce, "John Connally begins a quick head turn left at Z-151, followed by quickly looking
back right."
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on March 24, 2026, 09:24:12 PM ---According to Roselle and Scearce, "John Connally begins a quick head turn left at Z-151, followed by quickly looking
back right."
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The problem with that interpretation is that in his first interview, JBC said he looked over his left shoulder and saw the President had slumped as if it was all part of the same motion. Clearly, JBC did not turn far enough to the left to see that nor even after he turned to his right.
Much of what he described afterward is fairly accurate with one minor detail. In his later tellings of the story, he said he started to turn back toward the front, which is true, and he was facing almost directly forward when he felt the shot hit him in the back. He did in fact reach a forward facing position but not until the bullet had already struck him. He then turned back to his right and doubled over in reaction to being hit. Here again, I believe his later recollections were influenced by what he had seen in the Z-film. He saw himself doubled over in the late Z230s and saw he had reached a forward facing position at about Z230 and figured that was about when he was hit. He was actually hit less than a half second earlier which was followed almost immediately by his involuntary, reflexive arm flip at Z226. He didn't even remember being hit in the wrist but that event along with the jacket bulge two frames earlier give us the best indication of when the single bullet struck. Z226 is also the frame JFK made a similar involuntary, reflexive response to being hit by suddenly raising both arms.
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 24, 2026, 10:05:26 PM ---The problem with that interpretation is that in his first interview, JBC said he looked over his left shoulder and saw the President had slumped as if it was all part of the same motion. Clearly, JBC did not turn far enough to the left to see that nor even after he turned to his right.
Much of what he described afterward is fairly accurate with one minor detail. In his later tellings of the story, he said he started to turn back toward the front, which is true, and he was facing almost directly forward when he felt the shot hit him in the back. He did in fact reach a forward facing position but not until the bullet had already struck him. He then turned back to his right and doubled over in reaction to being hit. Here again, I believe his later recollections were influenced by what he had seen in the Z-film. He saw himself doubled over in the late Z230s and saw he had reached a forward facing position at about Z230 and figured that was about when he was hit. He was actually hit less than a half second earlier which was followed almost immediately by his involuntary, reflexive arm flip at Z226. He didn't even remember being hit in the wrist but that event along with the jacket bulge two frames earlier give us the best indication of when the single bullet struck. Z226 is also the frame JFK made a similar involuntary, reflexive response to being hit by suddenly raising both arms.
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About the only thing John "Mr. Confidant Politician" Connally got right was that there were three shots, they were fired from behind him by a high-powered rifle, and that when he turned to his right to locate the source of the first shot and to see if JFK was okay, he couldn't see him out of the corner of his eye (because JFK had turned his head far to his right and had raised his hand in front of it to wave to someone, and this combination prevented Connally from "seeing" him).
Tom Graves:
--- Quote from: Tom Graves on March 24, 2026, 11:30:21 PM ---About the only thing John "Mr. Confidant Politician" Connally got right was that there were three shots, they were fired from behind him by a high-powered rifle, and that when he turned to his right to locate the source of the first shot and to see if JFK was okay, he couldn't "see" him out of the corner of his eye (because JFK had turned his head far to his right and had raised his hand in front of it to wave to someone, and this combination prevented Connally from "seeing" him).
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