S. M. Holland's "Smoke" on the Grassy Knoll

[John Corbett]

     So the man demanding Evidence from others, now admits to pushing a: (1)"possibly", (2) "maybe" and (3) "open question".  The knot you are tying yourself into is not easy to watch.

I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. What is? I have made very clear my positions on any number of issues. There are many things we know because there is a wealth of evidence for those things. We know Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK and wounded JBC. We know Oswald murdered JDT. There is a wealth of incontrovertible evidence to support all of that. There are things we don't know for sure because the evidence is either inconclusive or non-existent. By applying critical thinking to the available evidence, I know what we know and what we don't know. There are issues for which we do NOT have conclusive evidence. The best we can do for those issues is recognize the various possibilities while also recognizing we cannot come to definite conclusions for those things. Not having definite conclusions for some issues, does not preclude us for reaching conclusions for which we have defintive evidence. If you still can't understand what I am saying, try finding a fifth grader to explain it to you.

[John Corbett]

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Did you happen to notice the word "speculation" in the first paragraph of that memo. The alleged bullet hole in the floorboard is speculation, not a conclusion based on evidence.

[Royell Storing]

I guess reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. What is? I have made very clear my positions on any number of issues. There are many things we know because there is a wealth of evidence for those things. We know Oswald fired the shots that killed JFK and wounded JBC. We know Oswald murdered JDT. There is a wealth of incontrovertible evidence to support all of that. There are things we don't know for sure because the evidence is either inconclusive or non-existent. By applying critical thinking to the available evidence, I know what we know and what we don't know. There are issues for which we do NOT have conclusive evidence. The best we can do for those issues is recognize the various possibilities while also recognizing we cannot come to definite conclusions for those things. Not having definite conclusions for some issues, does not preclude us for reaching conclusions for which we have defintive evidence. If you still can't understand what I am saying, try finding a fifth grader to explain it to you.

       I believe Oswald was involved in the assassination. What's your "incontrovertible evidence" that he was inside the sniper's nest at 12:30 PM?

[John Corbett]

       I believe Oswald was involved in the assassination. What's your "incontrovertible evidence" that he was inside the sniper's nest at 12:30 PM?

For starters, his fingerprints were on the boxes that had been stacked to form a rifle rest and they were oriented exactly as the would be if he had been facing down Elm St. The shells found in the sniper's nest were positively matched to the rifle found elsewhere on the sixth floor to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world. His palm print was on the underside of the barrel which could only have been placed there when the rifle was disassembled which it would have to have been to fit in the bag found near the sniper's nest. The bag had Oswald's finger and palm print on it and contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle in Ruth Paine's garage. Fresh fibers were found on the butt plate of the rifle that matched the shirt Oswald was wearing at the time of his arrest. The only two bullets recovered from the shooting matched the rifle on the 6th floor to the exclusion of all other firearms in the world. There was a paper trail that proved Oswald ordered the rifle from Klein's Sporting Goods and there are several photos of Oswald holding that rifle. In what Bizarro universe could all the evidence be present if Oswald was not the shooter in the 6th floor sniper's nest.

As if that wasn't enough, Oswald leaves his workplace without authorization in the middle of the day, goes to his rooming house to retrieve his revolver which he used to kiil JDT less than 45 minutes later. Why don't you embarrass yourself further by asking me to provide evidence Oswald murdered Tippit.

The only way there could have been more evidence Oswald was the shooter in the sniper's nest is if he had take a selfie of himself with the rifle in the sniper's nest at 12:29.

[Royell Storing]

For starters, his fingerprints were on the boxes that had been stacked to form a rifle rest and they were oriented exactly as the would be if he had been facing down Elm St. The shells found in the sniper's nest were positively matched to the rifle found elsewhere on the sixth floor to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world. His palm print was on the underside of the barrel which could only have been placed there when the rifle was disassembled which it would have to have been to fit in the bag found near the sniper's nest. The bag had Oswald's finger and palm print on it and contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle in Ruth Paine's garage. Fresh fibers were found on the butt plate of the rifle that matched the shirt Oswald was wearing at the time of his arrest. The only two bullets recovered from the shooting matched the rifle on the 6th floor to the exclusion of all other firearms in the world. There was a paper trail that proved Oswald ordered the rifle from Klein's Sporting Goods and there are several photos of Oswald holding that rifle. In what Bizarro universe could all the evidence be present if Oswald was not the shooter in the 6th floor sniper's nest.

As if that wasn't enough, Oswald leaves his workplace without authorization in the middle of the day, goes to his rooming house to retrieve his revolver which he used to kiil JDT less than 45 minutes later. Why don't you embarrass yourself further by asking me to provide evidence Oswald murdered Tippit.

The only way there could have been more evidence Oswald was the shooter in the sniper's nest is if he had take a selfie of himself with the rifle in the sniper's nest at 12:29.

    ALL of the above does NOT answer my question. "What's your incontrovertible evidence that he was inside the sniper's nest at 12:30 PM?".
    YOU can Not put Oswald inside the sniper's nest when shots were fired. Like I said, I believe he was involved in the assassination. He probably constructed the sniper's nest. He probably was also responsible for the "Wide Open" Huge Gates. Those Huge Gates permitted clandestine entrance and exit from the TSBD. This would include Oswald's exit from the TSBD after he was confronted by DPD Officer Baker inside the lunchroom. Oswald knew their plan was falling apart when he was confronted that quickly. But, you simply can Not put Oswald inside the sniper's nest at 12:30 PM. Again, your bias is getting in the way of any sound judgement on your part. This is a recurring theme, and continues tainting your opinions/observations.

[John Corbett]

    ALL of the above does NOT answer my question. "What's your incontrovertible evidence that he was inside the sniper's nest at 12:30 PM?".
    YOU can Not put Oswald inside the sniper's nest when shots were fired. Like I said, I believe he was involved in the assassination. He probably constructed the sniper's nest. He probably was also responsible for the "Wide Open" Huge Gates. Those Huge Gates permitted clandestine entrance and exit from the TSBD. This would include Oswald's exit from the TSBD after he was confronted by DPD Officer Baker inside the lunchroom. Oswald knew their plan was falling apart when he was confronted that quickly. But, you simply can Not put Oswald inside the sniper's nest at 12:30 PM. Again, your bias is getting in the way of any sound judgement on your part. This is a recurring theme, and continues tainting your opinions/observations.

If the evidence I listed isn't enough to convince you Oswald was the assassin, I can't help you. It would be sufficient for anyone with an ounce of common sense.

I don't need to put Oswald in the sniper's nest when the shots were fired. Oswald put Oswald in the sniper's nest when the shots were fired. It's amazing that you accept that Oswald took part in the assassination but can't bring yourself to acknowledge that he was the one that pulled the trigger. The strongest argument that it was Oswald who fired the shots are the fibers that matched his shirt found on the butt plate of the rifle. The recoil of the rifle would forcefully drive the butt plate into Oswald's shirt. Here's where common sense enters into the picture. That is why fibers from Oswald's shirt were on the butt plate of the rifle. You have zero evidence that anybody else was in the sniper's nice when the shots were fired but you are more than willing to simply ignore all the evidence it was Oswald who fired the shots and assume somebody else did. The forensic evidence alone screams that Oswald did it, but you and every other conspiracy hobbyist over the past six decades are desperate to believe it was anybody but Oswald who did it. Why is that?

I know this is almost a rhetorical question, but what evidence do you have that "Oswald knew their plan was falling apart when he was confronted that quickly". We both know you don't deal in evidence. Assumptions seem much more appealing to you then what the evidence indicates.

One last point. Anybody who believes the nonsense you believe in which isn't supported by a shred of evidence ought not be casting aspersions about other people's "sound judgement".

[Royell Storing]

If the evidence I listed isn't enough to convince you Oswald was the assassin, I can't help you. It would be sufficient for anyone with an ounce of common sense.

I don't need to put Oswald in the sniper's nest when the shots were fired. Oswald put Oswald in the sniper's nest when the shots were fired. It's amazing that you accept that Oswald took part in the assassination but can't bring yourself to acknowledge that he was the one that pulled the trigger. The strongest argument that it was Oswald who fired the shots are the fibers that matched his shirt found on the butt plate of the rifle. The recoil of the rifle would forcefully drive the butt plate into Oswald's shirt. Here's where common sense enters into the picture. That is why fibers from Oswald's shirt were on the butt plate of the rifle. You have zero evidence that anybody else was in the sniper's nice when the shots were fired but you are more than willing to simply ignore all the evidence it was Oswald who fired the shots and assume somebody else did. The forensic evidence alone screams that Oswald did it, but you and every other conspiracy hobbyist over the past six decades are desperate to believe it was anybody but Oswald who did it. Why is that?

I know this is almost a rhetorical question, but what evidence do you have that "Oswald knew their plan was falling apart when he was confronted that quickly". We both know you don't deal in evidence. Assumptions seem much more appealing to you then what the evidence indicates.

One last point. Anybody who believes the nonsense you believe in which isn't supported by a shred of evidence ought not be casting aspersions about other people's "sound judgement".

     So a prosecuting attorney proffers to the jury that the Proof of a defendant being at the murder scene is, "he put himself there"? That's, "My Cousin Vinny" material.
     It's Oswald's rifle, so naturally there would be traces of his shirt, prints, skin, etc on the rifle. So what? Same goes for anything connected to the blanket.
     I believe that Oswald was supposed to establish his alibi by being inside the lunchroom at lunchtime. When Officer Baker confronted Oswald so quickly, Oswald knew something had gone wrong. Maybe Oswald had that false ID on him, and he thought he was lucky that Officer Baker did Not pat him down? So he split via the Huge Gates. 

[Tom Graves]

For starters, his fingerprints were on the boxes that had been stacked to form a rifle rest and they were oriented exactly as the would be if he had been facing down Elm St. The shells found in the sniper's nest were positively matched to the rifle found elsewhere on the sixth floor to the exclusion of all other rifles in the world. His palm print was on the underside of the barrel which could only have been placed there when the rifle was disassembled which it would have to have been to fit in the bag found near the sniper's nest. The bag had Oswald's finger and palm print on it and contained fibers that matched the blanket Oswald used to store his rifle in Ruth Paine's garage. Fresh fibers were found on the butt plate of the rifle that matched the shirt Oswald was wearing at the time of his arrest. The only two bullets recovered from the shooting matched the rifle on the 6th floor to the exclusion of all other firearms in the world. There was a paper trail that proved Oswald ordered the rifle from Klein's Sporting Goods and there are several photos of Oswald holding that rifle. In what Bizarro universe could all the evidence be present if Oswald was not the shooter in the 6th floor sniper's nest.

As if that wasn't enough, Oswald leaves his workplace without authorization in the middle of the day, goes to his rooming house to retrieve his revolver which he used to kiil JDT less than 45 minutes later. Why don't you embarrass yourself further by asking me to provide evidence Oswald murdered Tippit.

The only way there could have been more evidence Oswald was the shooter in the sniper's nest is if he had take a selfie of himself with the rifle in the sniper's nest at 12:29.

One can only wonder how many evil, evil Deep State bad guys and evil, evil Deep State bad gals were involved in the planning, the patsy-ing, the forging and planting of all of the Oswald-incriminating evidence, the shooting, the getting-away, the altering of all of the photos, films and X-rays, and the all-important (and evidently ongoing!) cover up!