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S. M. Holland's "Smoke" on the Grassy Knoll
John Corbett:
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Are you Now running away from a shot striking the traffic signal support beam? In order to hit that traffic signal, a shooter has to be standing up. Not merely "rose up" as you claim. Standing erect was part of that razzle dazzle/visual aid that Max Holland provided on "The Lost Bullet". Your fudging with the firing stance of the shooter shows your awareness of the weak hand you are attempting to play.
"Junk Science"? Says the man that likes to proffer "Hunting Shows" as evidence. Pot meet kettle.
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Why would I run away from a position I never took. There is no conclusive evidence as to where that first shot hit and where it ended up. It isn't necessary to establish that because we have proof positive of where the second and third shots hit.
I have no obligation to defend Max Holland's hypothesis. I've never been a proponent of his theories. I don't have a weak hand because I'm not even in that game.
As for the hunting shows, it is an observable fact that can be replicated. Cameramen on these shows invariably jiggled their handheld cameras upon hearing the sound of a high powered rifle, even though they knew the shot was coming and it didn't startle them. It isn't just gunshots which cause camera jiggle. Many other sounds can cause it. A handheld camera will almost always have some slight movement but that movement is accentuated when there is a loud noise such as a rifle shot.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 20, 2026, 07:05:19 PM ---Why would I run away from a position I never took. There is no conclusive evidence as to where that first shot hit and where it ended up. It isn't necessary to establish that because we have proof positive of where the second and third shots hit.
I have no obligation to defend Max Holland's hypothesis. I've never been a proponent of his theories. I don't have a weak hand because I'm not even in that game.
As for the hunting shows, it is an observable fact that can be replicated. Cameramen on these shows invariably jiggled their handheld cameras upon hearing the sound of a high powered rifle, even though they knew the shot was coming and it didn't startle them. It isn't just gunshots which cause camera jiggle. Many other sounds can cause it. A handheld camera will almost always have some slight movement but that movement is accentuated when there is a loud noise such as a rifle shot.
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They found a hole in the floor of the limo (between the Connolys) when they worked on the limo in Dec 1963.
I showed a photo of the hole in my thread.
The bullet hole iz now covered by a layer of titanium or steel on top, so u would need to look from underneath.
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Marjan Rynkiewicz on March 20, 2026, 10:41:19 PM ---They found a hole in the floor of the limo (between the Connolys) when they worked on the limo in Dec 1963.
I showed a photo of the hole in my thread.
The bullet hole iz now covered by a layer of titanium or steel on top, so u would need to look from underneath.
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Source?
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 20, 2026, 11:02:11 PM ---Source?
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https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2853.msg158462.html#msg158462
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Marjan Rynkiewicz on March 21, 2026, 01:54:54 AM ---https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2853.msg158462.html#msg158462
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How is a photo of a reenactment a source for your claim that there was a bullet hole the floor of the presidential limo? You are citing yourself as a source and everything you are presenting is argumentative, speculation, and circular logic.
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