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S. M. Holland's "Smoke" on the Grassy Knoll
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 19, 2026, 04:14:03 PM --- You're avoiding addressing the obvious. You got 3 hulls vs physical evidence of only 2 bullets. That's a Big problem. This "lost bullet" stuff is David Copperfield worthy. When do you saw the lady in half?
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It is absurd to expect every bullet that is fired to be recoverable, especially the bullets from missed shots. Shots that don't hit the intended target can travel great distances and are not going to always be recoverable. It isn't a problem at all that we have 3 spent hulls and only 2 recovered bullets. That missed shot ended up somewhere. We just don't know where that was nor do we need to.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 19, 2026, 06:25:06 PM ---It is absurd to expect every bullet that is fired to be recoverable, especially the bullets from missed shots. Shots that don't hit the intended target can travel great distances and are not going to always be recoverable. It isn't a problem at all that we have 3 spent hulls and only 2 recovered bullets. That missed shot ended up somewhere. We just don't know where that was nor do we need to.
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For starters, where is there Evidence of a "missed shot"? And didn't the HSCA claim a 4th shot was a "missed shot". This "missed shot" stuff cuts both ways. But this is where you are at. Now claiming that Oswald while standing up, fired a "missed shot" through a 1/2 open window. Ludicrous.
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 19, 2026, 06:25:06 PM ---It is absurd to expect every bullet that is fired to be recoverable, especially the bullets from missed shots. Shots that don't hit the intended target can travel great distances and are not going to always be recoverable. It isn't a problem at all that we have 3 spent hulls and only 2 recovered bullets. That missed shot ended up somewhere. We just don't know where that was nor do we need to.
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There were 2 shots from the Carcano, & we found say 1.25 slugs from the Carcano (a whole slug from Z218)(bits of lead from Z218 in Connolly)(the brass in the limo from the ricochet at Z110)(bits of lead in the limo from Z110)(bits of lead on jfk's head from Z110).
And Hickey fired at least 4 shots & we found say 0.1 slugs from the AR15 (bits of lead in jfk's head & brain from Z312)(bits of lead on windshield from Z312)(bits of lead in limo from Z312--Z300)(smear of lead on kerb near Tague from Z300)(we might be able to add to that 0.1 slugs about 0.75 of a slug ie a partial slug was found up on the TUP in about 1977? possibly from Z300 or Z???).
John Corbett:
--- Quote from: Royell Storing on March 19, 2026, 07:02:54 PM --- For starters, where is there Evidence of a "missed shot"? And didn't the HSCA claim a 4th shot was a "missed shot". This "missed shot" stuff cuts both ways. But this is where you are at. Now claiming that Oswald while standing up, fired a "missed shot" through a 1/2 open window. Ludicrous.
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There were three spent shells and only two recovered bullets. Prima fascia evidence of a missed shot.
The HSCA conclusions were FUBAR. They allowed themselves to be duped by junk science which was never peer reviewed and thoroughly debunked after they published their findings.
Up until now, I hadn't claimed Oswald stood up. However, the first shot would have been fired at more vertical downward trajectory than the first two shots. That would have forced Oswald to raise himself somewhat in order elevate the butt end of the rifle and fire downward at a target moving across his line of fire. This made the first the most difficult of the three since the subsequent shots were fired with his target moving almost directly away from him. The first shot, while being the shortest, was by far the most difficult of the three for the reasons stated. I doubt Oswald stood completely up for that first shot but he probably rose up part way to fire that first shot.
PS. Do you have any credible evidence of anyone other than Oswald taking part in the assassination. Don't feel bad if you don't. After 62 years, nobody else has either.
Royell Storing:
--- Quote from: John Corbett on March 20, 2026, 11:30:46 AM ---There were three spent shells and only two recovered bullets. Prima fascia evidence of a missed shot.
The HSCA conclusions were FUBAR. They allowed themselves to be duped by junk science which was never peer reviewed and thoroughly debunked after they published their findings.
Up until now, I hadn't claimed Oswald stood up. However, the first shot would have been fired at more vertical downward trajectory than the first two shots. That would have forced Oswald to raise himself somewhat in order elevate the butt end of the rifle and fire downward at a target moving across his line of fire. This made the first the most difficult of the three since the subsequent shots were fired with his target moving almost directly away from him. The first shot, while being the shortest, was by far the most difficult of the three for the reasons stated. I doubt Oswald stood completely up for that first shot but he probably rose up part way to fire that first shot.
PS. Do you have any credible evidence of anyone other than Oswald taking part in the assassination. Don't feel bad if you don't. After 62 years, nobody else has either.
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Are you Now running away from a shot striking the traffic signal support beam? In order to hit that traffic signal, a shooter has to be standing up. Not merely "rose up" as you claim. Standing erect was part of that razzle dazzle/visual aid that Max Holland provided on "The Lost Bullet". Your fudging with the firing stance of the shooter shows your awareness of the weak hand you are attempting to play.
"Junk Science"? Says the man that likes to proffer "Hunting Shows" as evidence. Pot meet kettle.
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