Gunman in the pergola window...

[Jake Maxwell]

This overlay might help some recognize the very profile of a sniper in the pergola window...

[John Corbett]

This overlay might help some recognize the very profile of a sniper in the pergola window...

Doesn't help your case at all. When you have to insert a photo of the shooter into original photo to make it look like a shooter, it means the original doesn't look like a shooter at all.

I don't suppose you've bothered to ask yourself some fundamental questions such as why no one heard an earsplitting gunshot from the pergola window, why no one saw the gunman before the shots were fired or after the shots were fired, or why a gunman would choose such a conspicuous place to fire from.

[Mitch Todd]

   Umbrella Man is standing on the sidewalk. This is why he said something along the lines of, "... just sat down" with respect to sitting on the retaining wall behind him. People such as yourself are simply unfamiliar with just how wide that sidewalk is. When they shut down Dealey Plaza to do the CSI work, they had DPD Cop Cars parked on that same sidewalk. Those cop cars did not hang over the sides of the sidewalk. That Elm St sidewalk is not similar to the one you used to play hopscotch on.

Looks to me like he's on a dirty of the lawn next to the edge of the sidewalk.


However, even if we were to assume for the sake of argument that TUM is indeed on the sidewalk, it's still fatal to your argument. Witt testified that he was on the grass when he saw the motorcade start down Elm. He said he started walking towards the street while trying to open the umbrella. He had trouble opening the umbrella but "continued to move forward and finally got this umbrella up in the air" with the sequence ending "I think by the time I got the thing up in the air I was over and possibly standing on the retaining wall." There is a low retaining wall at the edge of the Elm St sidewalk, so his testimony is perfectly consistent with your interpretation of the Bronson film. You're just out of luck here.

[Royell Storing]

Looks to me like he's on a dirty of the lawn next to the edge of the sidewalk.


However, even if we were to assume for the sake of argument that TUM is indeed on the sidewalk, it's still fatal to your argument. Witt testified that he was on the grass when he saw the motorcade start down Elm. He said he started walking towards the street while trying to open the umbrella. He had trouble opening the umbrella but "continued to move forward and finally got this umbrella up in the air" with the sequence ending "I think by the time I got the thing up in the air I was over and possibly standing on the retaining wall." There is a low retaining wall at the edge of the Elm St sidewalk, so his testimony is perfectly consistent with your interpretation of the Bronson film. You're just out of luck here.

    Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  . Like I said, the Bronson Film was not public knowledge when he testified. This is why nobody on the panel questioned him about the difference between his testimony and the Bronson Film Images. There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony. It's not even close. And he says, "POSSIBLY standing on the retaining wall." Again, that too is pure  . "POSSIBLY"? And you wanna swear by that? 

[Mitch Todd]

    Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  . Like I said, the Bronson Film was not public knowledge when he testified. This is why nobody on the panel questioned him about the difference between his testimony and the Bronson Film Images. There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony. It's not even close. And he says, "POSSIBLY standing on the retaining wall." Again, that too is pure  . "POSSIBLY"? And you wanna swear by that?

RS: Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  BS

The Bronson film shows that TUM is standing about where the retaining wall would be, with his umbrella up and open, while the limousine has indeed already passed him by. Did you not look at the still I posted?


There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony.

1.) There is no "Witt WC testimony." He didn't testify about the assassination until the late 1970s.

2.)Adjusting for that, your sentence says, in effect, "There's NO WAY that Witt's testimony is perfectly consistent with Witt's testimony." Since there is only one "Witt's testimony" it would indeed be perfectly consistent with itself, just as a=a in all cases.

[Royell Storing]

RS: Witt said by the time he got the umbrella open, the JFK Limo had passed by him. That's pure  BS

The Bronson film shows that TUM is standing about where the retaining wall would be, with his umbrella up and open, while the limousine has indeed already passed him by. Did you not look at the still I posted?


There is simply NO WAY the Witt WC Testimony is "perfectly consistent" with his testimony.

1.) There is no "Witt WC testimony." He didn't testify about the assassination until the late 1970s.

2.)Adjusting for that, your sentence says, in effect, "There's NO WAY that Witt's testimony is perfectly consistent with Witt's testimony." Since there is only one "Witt's testimony" it would indeed be perfectly consistent with itself, just as a=a in all cases.

    Are you claiming that Witt was standing on: (1) the grass, or, (2) the retaining wall? Both the grass and the retaining wall are incorrect.  He stood on the very wide sidewalk.

[Mitch Todd]

    Are you claiming that Witt was standing on: (1) the grass, or, (2) the retaining wall? Both the grass and the retaining wall are incorrect.  He stood on the very wide sidewalk.

I already answered these questions in Reply #107, a few replies above: "Looks to me like he's on a dirty of the lawn next to the edge of the sidewalk."

I also helpfully noted that your placement of TUM on the sidewalk only hurts your contentions:

"However, even if we were to assume for the sake of argument that TUM is indeed on the sidewalk, it's still fatal to your argument. Witt testified that he was on the grass when he saw the motorcade start down Elm. He said he started walking towards the street while trying to open the umbrella. He had trouble opening the umbrella but "continued to move forward and finally got this umbrella up in the air" with the sequence ending "I think by the time I got the thing up in the air I was over and possibly standing on the retaining wall." There is a low retaining wall at the edge of the Elm St sidewalk, so his testimony is perfectly consistent with your interpretation of the Bronson film"