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Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Gunman in the pergola window...
« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2026, 10:22:32 PM »
   Will you STOP with the "minute" routine? People do not believe it is a "minute detail" to remember: (1) STANDING like a statue, (2) DIRECTLY looking at the POTUS, and (3) HECKLING him by pumping an umbrella. Any of us going out of our way to do ALL of this would remember it.
But the Bronson film doesn't disprove anything Witt said. You did actually watch the Bronson film before commenting, right?

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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2026, 10:27:15 PM »
But the Bronson film doesn't disprove anything Witt said. You did actually watch the Bronson film before commenting, right?

   Yes I have. The Zapruder Film too. There are absolutely NO IMAGES of Umbrella Man ever being physically on the Knoll. None.

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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2026, 11:34:23 PM »
   Yes I have. The Zapruder Film too. There are absolutely NO IMAGES of Umbrella Man ever being physically on the Knoll. None.
An awful lot of people consider the "grassy knoll" to be all of the grassy area to the north of Elm. That includes the grassy area in front of the pergola.

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« Reply #67 on: March 22, 2026, 11:40:11 PM »
An awful lot of people consider the "grassy knoll" to be all of the grassy area to the north of Elm. That includes the grassy area in front of the pergola.

   For future reference, I consider The Knoll to be the grass (E) of The Steps/ in front of The Pergola. The Grassy Knoll = Between The Steps & The Triple Underpass.

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« Reply #68 on: Yesterday at 03:24:03 AM »
   For future reference, I consider The Knoll to be the grass (E) of The Steps/ in front of The Pergola. The Grassy Knoll = Between The Steps & The Triple Underpass.
You completely missed the point. As far as Witt's testimony is concerned, the only important definition of Grassy Knoll is whatever he thought it was..

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« Reply #69 on: Yesterday at 03:32:45 PM »
You completely missed the point. As far as Witt's testimony is concerned, the only important definition of Grassy Knoll is whatever he thought it was..

    "Whatever he thought it was"? Now you're getting into Bill Clinton territory. Please stop dragging this out.
  (1) Witt testified that he was walking straight toward Elm St. (2) He ID'd himself as being in the photo showing him and The Cuban sitting on the retaining wall after the kill shot. (3) He testified something along the lines of, "We just sat down" following the kill shot. ALL of this clearly shows what section of the "Grassy Knoll" Witt was referring to. It helps to be familiar with the entire Witt HSCA Testimony.

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« Reply #70 on: Today at 01:05:57 AM »
    "Whatever he thought it was"? Now you're getting into Bill Clinton territory. Please stop dragging this out.
  (1) Witt testified that he was walking straight toward Elm St. (2) He ID'd himself as being in the photo showing him and The Cuban sitting on the retaining wall after the kill shot. (3) He testified something along the lines of, "We just sat down" following the kill shot. ALL of this clearly shows what section of the "Grassy Knoll" Witt was referring to. It helps to be familiar with the entire Witt HSCA Testimony.
You just argued that: a.) Witt claimed that he was on the grassy knoll and b.) that the Bronson film shows that Witt was not on the GK. I pointed out that he can easily be seen in the Bronson film standing in front of the Pergola, and that many people consider that the GK to be the grassy area north of  Elm. By implication, Witt would have been on the knoll if the more expansive definition was used. Also by implication, the Bronson film is not proof that Witt lied or otherwise misrepresented his position.

Your response was "well, I define the GK to be...."  But it's not about how you define GK, but how Witt would have defined the term. Is it really that hard for you to follow along?

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« Reply #71 on: Today at 01:14:36 AM »

Your response was "well, I define the GK to be...."  But it's not about how you define GK, but how Witt would have defined the term. Is it really that hard for you to follow along?

It probably is.