The best evidence Ferrie and Clay Shaw were close acquaintences

[John Corbett]

If what Pena said is true, wouldn't that mean Shaw lied the Garrison trial regarding knowing Ferrie?

What if he did?

[Gerry Down]

What if he did?

It would likely mean he was hiding something. No one else I know of denied knowing Ferrie. Pena didn't deny it. Bringuier didn't deny it. Russo didn't deny it. But Shaw denied it 🤔

[Gerry Down]

It could mean Garrison knew Shaw and Ferrie were associates but could never prove it.

[Tom Graves]

It could mean Garrison knew Shaw and Ferrie were associates but could never prove it.

Dear Gerry,

Do you think Clay Shaw and David Ferrie participated in the homosexual "thrill kill" assassination of JFK (which is what overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful Jim Garrison believed until around April 1967), or do you think Shaw organized it for the evil, evil, evil, evil, evil CIA (which is what Garrison believed after he'd read a KGB article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper)?

-- Tom

[Gerry Down]

Dear Gerry,

Do you think Clay Shaw and David Ferrie participated in the homosexual "thrill kill" assassination of JFK (which is what overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, and revengeful Jim Garrison believed until around April 1967), or do you think Shaw organized it for the evil, evil, evil, evil, evil CIA (which is what Garrison believed after he'd read a KGB article in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper)?

-- Tom

No, I don't believe either of those two things. I just suspect there is truth to the claim by Pena that Shaw and Ferrie were associates.

[Tom Graves]

No, I don't believe either of those two things. I just suspect there is truth to the claim by Pena that Shaw and Ferrie were associates.

If you don't believe in either of those scenarios, what does it matter if Ferrie and Shaw went dancing every evening?

[Lance Payette]

Man of a Million Fragments: The True Story of Clay Shaw by Donald H. Carpenter is so fantastically detailed that it becomes tedious. As with Oswald, there simply wasn't sufficient "missing time" in his life for him to have done all the things he supposedly did. New Orleans being what it was, and Shaw and Ferrie having gay proclivities, it's conceivable they were once in the same room together (e.g., some party or gathering) but the idea of close acquaintances is belied by all the evidence. Carpenter follows through on the main Ferrie claims, and they just don't pan out. Why can't people just let go of these dead ends?