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The best evidence Ferrie and Clay Shaw were close acquaintences
Fred Litwin:
James DiEugenio doesn't know the case.
He talks about Shaw's secretary saw Shaw and Ferrie together.
Here is a good case study in how he gets it completely wrong, and I mean completely wrong.
https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/did-clay-shaw-s-secretary-see-david-ferrie-in-shaw-s-office
Tommy Shanks:
--- Quote from: Gerry Down on January 30, 2026, 03:34:17 PM ---I dont think he could be mistaken. He was familar with Ferrie, he even spoke to Ferrie on the day before Ferrie died. And he would probably be familar with Shaw as Shaw was a well known person in New Orleans.
I guess one possibility is that it could be that the Ferrie Shaw acquaintence was a very short lived one, perhaps one that ended when Ferrie was fired from Eastern Airlines and Shaw wanted nothing more to do with him. Apparently its not stated what timeframe Ferrie and Shaw were coming in together into Penas bar.
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I guess? But the notion of Shaw and Ferrie meeting at a bar flies in the face of every single thing we know about them. My guess is that Pena was wrong in his identification of Shaw. I'm also not sure why you're clinging to this one specific anecdote so heavily. Do you believe Shaw and Ferrie were up to anything untoward as it pertains to the JFK assassination?
Gerry Down:
--- Quote from: Tommy Shanks on January 30, 2026, 05:46:01 PM ---I guess? But the notion of Shaw and Ferrie meeting at a bar flies in the face of every single thing we know about them. My guess is that Pena was wrong in his identification of Shaw. I'm also not sure why you're clinging to this one specific anecdote so heavily. Do you believe Shaw and Ferrie were up to anything untoward as it pertains to the JFK assassination?
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I don't believe they were involved in the JFKA.
But if they did know each other, it would vindicate Garrison on at least that point. And also mean Shaw lied in court.
Tommy Shanks:
--- Quote from: Gerry Down on January 30, 2026, 06:14:22 PM ---I don't believe they were involved in the JFKA.
But if they did know each other, it would vindicate Garrison on at least that point. And also mean Shaw lied in court.
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I mean, I guess so? What value does "vindicating" Garrison on "that point" have in the grand scheme of things, especially in light of the lives he destroyed and the nonsense he disseminated about the "real" assassins and plotters?
Fred Litwin:
But if they didn't know each other, Shaw didn't like.
Why should we believe Pena in the absence of any corroborating evidence? Why was he reluctant to make
such a statement under oath?
fred
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