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Author Topic: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"  (Read 8207 times)

Online John Corbett

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #35 on: May 22, 2026, 01:28:42 AM »
That's because you know virtually nothing about the KGB* other than what false defectors, Kremlin-loyal double and triple agents, "moles," and "useful idiot" former CIA officers and espionage writers have told you to believe, and you resist learning the truth about it because you know deep down in your little 'ol cotton-pickin' heart that "former" KGB counterintelligence officer Vladimir Putin installed your fascistic con artist hero, The Traitorous Orange Turd, as our "President" on 20 January 2017.

*Today's SVR and FSB

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2014.962362

Your problem is you think you know things that just ain't so.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #36 on: May 22, 2026, 01:35:56 AM »
Your problem is you think you know things that just ain't so.

Like what, for example?

Online John Corbett

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #37 on: May 22, 2026, 02:00:36 PM »
Like what, for example?

Like Putin installing Trump as POTUS.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #38 on: May 22, 2026, 11:22:19 PM »
Like Putin's installing Trump as POTUS.

He surely did, with help from 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation, "active measures" (can you say, e.g., "AIDS was created by the CIA!!!" and Oliver Stone's "JFK"?), and strategic deception counterintelligence operations, his GRU hackers, his professional St. Petersburg trolls, oodles and gobs of zombified "useful idiots" (or worse; can you say Julian Assange?), and corrupt S.O.B.s like Paul Manafort (in conjunction with GRU officer Konstantin Kiliminik and Putin's buddy, Oleg Deripaska), et al., ad nauseum.

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Online John Corbett

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2026, 11:57:38 PM »
He surely did, with help from 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation, "active measures" (can you say, e.g., "AIDS was created by the CIA!!!" and Oliver Stone's "JFK"?), and strategic deception counterintelligence operations, his GRU hackers, his professional St. Petersburg trolls, oodles and gobs of zombified "useful idiots" (or worse; can you say Julian Assange?), and corrupt S.O.B.s like Paul Manafort (in conjunction with GRU officer Konstantin Kiliminik and Putin's buddy, Oleg Deripaska), et al., ad nauseum.

*Today's SVR and FSB

Keep believing that. It gives this forum some much needed comic relief.

Online Tom Graves

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2026, 12:19:45 AM »
Keep believing that. It gives this forum some much needed comic relief.

Far-Right (as well as Far-Left) zombified-by-KGB-disinformation "useful idiots" like you will never discern the overall picture, Corbett.

Case in point:

It's ironic that you're so right about the mechanics of the JFK assassination but don't realize that the CTs' hero, overly ambitious, scandal-plagued, revengeful Jim Garrison, was duped by a KGB article that appeared in a Communist-owned Italian newspaper three days after he'd arrested Clay Shaw on suspicion of having masterminded the homosexual "thrill-kill" assassination into believing that the evil, evil CIA had killed JFK, which idea Comrade Stone popularized in his 1991 self-described mythological ("to counter the myth of the Warren Report") film, "JFK," which itself was based on Garrison's specious 1988 book, On the Trail of the Assassins and Jim Marrs' book, Crossfire: The Plot that Killed Kennedy.

Sad.

Very sad.
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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: A succinct and authoritative counterpoint to TG's "KGB stuff"
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2026, 01:27:51 AM »
TG:

I never understood the "Russia is OK" sentiment on the right-wing, which has some roots extending all the way back to Pat Buchanan, the Nixon guy.

Of course, the lefties were always for accommodating Russia, see James DiEugenio and Putin-puppet Oliver Stone. They have even re-fabricated the JFK legacy to their left-wing ideologies and agendas.

IMHO, you are correct in your assessment of the narratives around the JFKA, some funded by Moscow, and in latter years, some by Tehran.

It is an artifact of the times that while the JFKA LNT captured most of of the political right, the JFKA CT captured most of the political left. Almost no one has researched the JFKA CTs that point to Havana or Moscow, with rare exceptions such as James Woolsey or Gus Russo.

In JFKA-land, the ideology writes the agenda, and the agenda writes the narrative.

Caveat emptor, and draw your own conclusions.