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Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Steve M. Galbraith on January 09, 2026, 09:50:22 PM ---How can he be prosecuted for violating DOJ policy? A policy is not a law. If he's violating DOJ policy then he can be disciplined by DOJ. But what *law* did he violate? Isn't that the question? You're citing the policy but not the law.

The policy is, as I read it, based largely on a Supreme Court decision, Graham vs. Connor, that used a "reasonable" standard to determine whether the action was lawful or not. That's the law we need to look at. So the question (for me) then is whether or not, in that moment, the officer reasonably feared for his life. And if he did reasonably fear for his life, then unfortunately, he was justified in opening fire and firing all three shots.

To put it otherwise: Was his fear of harm reasonable or not? He probably violated DOJ policy. But did he violate the law? It's not clear to me he did.

Question: Did Ross interact with the driver? It appears he didn't. As you point out, the interactions between the parties before the shooting. Whether the agents escalated matters (seems to me they handled it poorly) or the driver? Lots of things we don't yet know. And really, how many times have we had where what we thought we knew on Day #1 turned upside down on Day #2? It seems to always happen.

Graham is here: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/490/386/

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Given the fact that:

1) she was surrounded by masked armed men

2) whose vehicles were blocking her vehicle (even though, apparently wanting to turn left, she had signaled to the driver of the second blocking vehicle to go around her)

3) one of them quickly walked up to her car

4) grabbed the doorhandle

5) tried to open her door

6) yelling, "get the xxxx out of the car"

7) and another one was yelling, "get out of here"

8 ) and then the guy who had grabbed the doorhandle reached inside the car to try to either open the door or grab her . . .

wasn't she in reasonable fear of her life and therefore acted reasonably when she turned her steering wheel to the right in an attempt to avoid hitting the armed idiot standing in front of her car, and tried to get the heck out of there at a reasonable rate of speed?

Tom Graves:

--- Quote from: Lance Payette on January 09, 2026, 11:00:47 PM ---
Here is a video I had not seen before, which shows how quickly Ross pulls and fires his gun and that the second and third shots were apparently fired through the open window as he stood to the side: https://x.com/Fritschner/status/2008989256543555598?s=20.

This is simply i-n-e-x-c-u-s-a-b-l-e.

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I thought you already knew that, FPL.

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