Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 05:30:22 PM »
It was shown to a few witnesses that made no comment..and there is no basis to assume others had seen it or expected to comment.
Or that it was even in the same room that witnesses testified in from March until May. It was wrapped in a blanket

Hosty testified April 8, '64 (google A-I)- was probably called in March 9th with the other FBI agents to view it. Kellerman was March 9th.
there are certainly not "...many other witnesses"


It is still in the archives. If anyone questions whether or not there is a hole through it, go see it for yourself.

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 06:44:04 PM »
The FBI's Robert Frazier examined the limo and the windshield.  He testified that the windshield was actually two separate sheets of glass molded together to form one windshield.  He stated that the inner sheet, the side facing the limo's interior, had a crack in it.  The outer sheet, the side facing outside the limo, was smooth.  This was not a through and through hole; only a crack.

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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 07:30:30 PM »

It is still in the archives. If anyone questions whether or not there is a hole through it, go see it for yourself.
Dulles and Specter discussed the Commission viewing the windshield during the Robert Frazier testimony.

Mr. DULLES - May I just ask a question of you, Mr. Specter, and possibly of the witness.
I assume that the windshield we are now discussing is the windshield that was exhibited to the Commission several weeks ago and which members of the Commission examined?
Mr. SPECTER - It was, Mr. Dulles, and we can establish that, of record, through another Commission Exhibit which is 351, which was the number given to the windshield and we have a reproduction here through the photograph.

Mr. DULLES - You don't have the windshield here today, though?
Mr. SPECTER - No, we do not.
Mr. DULLES - It would be the same windshield that the Commission saw.

Anyway, I'm not sure what the point in this is. Other than the typical quibbling and demands by the conspiracy crowd.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/frazr2.htm
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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 11:35:46 PM »

Google AI says:

“Yes, the windshield from the JFK assassination limousine was brought into the Warren Commission's hearing room and accepted as evidence on March 9, 1964.
The item, designated Commission Exhibit (CE) 351, was carried into the room wrapped in a blanket for examination by the commission members. Secret Service agents, including Roy H. Kellerman, who was in the front seat of the limousine during the shooting, were present to testify.
The windshield was a key piece of physical evidence in the investigation, particularly regarding the path of the bullets. FBI experts determined that an abrasion on the inner surface of the glass was caused by a bullet fragment impacting it from the inside of the car, corroborating the conclusion that all shots came from behind the limousine.
Today, the windshield is preserved as evidence and held by the National Archives. You can view images of the windshield through the National Archives catalog.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=was+the+windshield+from+the+JFK+assassination+limo+displayed+in+the+hearing+room+of+the+Warren+Commission+during+the+hearings&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

So, it was brought into the room on March 9, 1964 and was still there in May when Hosty testified. I would assume that many other witnesses saw the windshield in that room.
The small remnant lead slug of Hickey's last shot of his accidental auto burst of his AR15 exited jfk's head at Z313 & cracked the windshield.
Then the slug or most of it must have exited the limo & ended up on the street.

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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 11:57:30 PM »
The small remnant lead slug of Hickey's last shot of his accidental auto burst of his AR15 exited jfk's head at Z313 & cracked the windshield.
Then the slug or most of it must have exited the limo & ended up on the street.

LOL!!!

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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #13 on: Today at 12:01:34 AM »
It was shown to a few witnesses that made no comment..and there is no basis to assume others had seen it or expected to comment.
Or that it was even in the same room that witnesses testified in from March until May. It was wrapped in a blanket

Hosty testified April 8, '64 (google A-I)- was probably called in March 9th with the other FBI agents to view it. Kellerman was March 9th.
there are certainly not "...many other witnesses"


The date that Hosty specified in his book for this encounter with the windshield was May 5, 1964. Google AI isn’t always correct. Here’s a link to an FBI report confirming the May 5, 1964 date of Hosty’s testimony.

http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%20Subject%20Index%20Files%20Original/H%20Disk/Hosty%20James%20P%20Jr%20SA/Item%2021.pdf

The FBI report also specifies the names of the people in the room for Hosty’s testimony.

The point I am trying to make is that the windshield was and still is available for inspection. I cannot state with any certainty how long the windshield remained in the hearing room. But the fact that Hosty said it was sitting on the desk there on May 5, 1964; and that it had been entered into evidence weeks earlier suggests to me that it was most likely there long enough for many witnesses and others to see. If you think otherwise, that’s fine with me.

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Re: Experiment proves no bullet penetrated the limo windshield
« Reply #14 on: Today at 12:08:59 AM »
Dulles and Specter discussed the Commission viewing the windshield during the Robert Frazier testimony.

Mr. DULLES - May I just ask a question of you, Mr. Specter, and possibly of the witness.
I assume that the windshield we are now discussing is the windshield that was exhibited to the Commission several weeks ago and which members of the Commission examined?
Mr. SPECTER - It was, Mr. Dulles, and we can establish that, of record, through another Commission Exhibit which is 351, which was the number given to the windshield and we have a reproduction here through the photograph.

Mr. DULLES - You don't have the windshield here today, though?
Mr. SPECTER - No, we do not.
Mr. DULLES - It would be the same windshield that the Commission saw.

Anyway, I'm not sure what the point in this is. Other than the typical quibbling and demands by the conspiracy crowd.

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/testimony/frazr2.htm

Thanks Steve. That testimony from Robert Frazier was apparently taken on May 13, 1964. A little over a week after the date Hosty said that he saw the windshield in the WC hearing room. It seems the windshield was no longer there on May 13,1964.

I was asked for my source and responded. Then the quibbling and demands continued as usual.

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