Why did Oswald go to the movies?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #931 on: September 24, 2018, 11:38:44 PM »
If they didn't, they are the only theater I know of that didn't. The whole point of tearing the ticket and giving half to the patron is two-fold:

It cancels the ticket: a patron who bought a ticket, saw a movie, and left the theater can't re-enter the place on the half ticket.

It serves as a receipt proving that a customer in the theater proper had purchased a ticket.

Now, do you have any evidence that the Texas Theatre didn't give back stubs? Or are you just trying to play Junior G-Man Grinchiklaus, searching desperately for a Christmas tree light that won't light on one side? 
 

You could have just said "no, I don't have any evidence that the Texas Theater tore tickets" rather than just trying to shift the burden of proof.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #932 on: September 24, 2018, 11:42:03 PM »
My picture, what's that got to do with the assassination?

The picture you posted of Markham, dummy.

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Just another JohnI bait and switch, you continually and might I add unsuccessfully attempt to discredit Markham, first you post a photo of Markham to deceive and then you deliberately lie about her testimony.

How exactly does the picture I posted of Markham "deceive" and your picture of Markham does not?  It's just a picture.  And how did I "deliberately lie" about her testimony?  You just blatantly make stuff up.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #933 on: September 24, 2018, 11:45:20 PM »
This constant mission to discredit Markham is sad and pathetic. But hey, whatever it takes.

She discredits herself.  Why all the dancing and twisting to make excuses for her bizarre claims?  Could it be because she's the only witness to the Tippit shooting who identified the man (in an unfair lineup) as Oswald (because of his eyes)?

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #934 on: September 24, 2018, 11:45:32 PM »
If the part in bold can be supported then it would blow the lid off this fairytale.

Yes, the only thing lacking is any evidence!  Brewer confirms he went to work at the shoe company straight out of school.


Mr. BELIN - Did you go to school after you graduated from high school?
Mr. BREWER - I went to Southwest Texas State Teachers College in San Marcos a year, and a year in Nixon Clay Business College in Austin.
Mr. BELIN - Then what did you do?
Mr. BREWER - I got married and quit school and went to work for Hardy's Shoe Store. I----that was in September, and I got married in December. And I have been with them ever since.
Mr. BELIN - When did you go to work for Hardy's Shoe Store?
Mr. BREWER - In September of 1961.
Mr. BELIN - Do they assign you to any particular store?
Mr. BREWER - I worked at the Capital Plaza Shopping Center in Austin for about 10 months, and then they transferred me to Dallas and gave me a store down on Jefferson.
Mr. BELIN - In Austin were you just a shoe salesman?
Mr. BREWER - I was assistant manager.
Mr. BELIN - And they transferred you to a shop on Jefferson?
Mr. BREWER - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - In Dallas?
Mr. BREWER - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - What is the address of that shop in Dallas?
Mr. BREWER - 213 West Jefferson.

Online John Mytton

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #935 on: September 24, 2018, 11:52:51 PM »
She discredits herself. 

We've been through your list and it amounts to Markham not understanding a question and Markham understandably being a little distressed because in front of her very eyes she witnesses a man being shot to death. But it still doesn't change her positive identification, sorry about that.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #936 on: September 24, 2018, 11:58:48 PM »
Oh, and did I mention that Brewer actually saw That Man in the theater when they turned the lights up?

I know Brewer thought that the guy he saw 50 yards away down by the furniture store from behind was the same guy who was standing is his vestibule was the same guy he pointed out in the theater.  But that doesn't make it true.

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To get from that collection of statements to "she said she wasn't sure whether he did or not," you have to pretend most of them don't exist, then take the last remaining one and strip the negative connotation completely out of it. I'm sure that was all just an accident.

No accident at all.





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Brewer, John Gibson, and George Applin all saw a pistol in Oswald's hand during the melee with the cops. How did it get there if he didn't draw it himself? I mean, did a feral revolver that lived in the alley charge into the theater through the open back door then lunge at McDonald's throat before Oswald bravely saved the day by grabbing the rabies-crazed firearm to protect McDonald from it's venomous bite?

Are arguments by sarcasm in the LN playbook?  As for Applin:

Mr. BALL - Who pulled the pistol?
Mr. APPLIN - I guess it was Oswald, because--for one reason, that he had on a short sleeve shirt, and I seen a man's arm that was connected to the gun.

Was Oswald wearing a short-sleeved shirt?

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He entered a theater without buying a ticket and sat down in the auditorium. That would most likely constitute criminal trespass.

Great, what's your evidence that Oswald entered a theater without buying a ticket?

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And the cops didn't even need a warrant or probable cause to stop and frisk you. Remember the NYPD's "stop and frisk" program?

Here's some background from people with an actual legal background:
https://www.legalzoom.com/articles/when-can-the-police-stop-and-frisk-you-on-the-street

Cool, now ask your "people with an actual legal background" when the Supreme Court case authorizing "stop and frisk" was decided.

Online John Mytton

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #937 on: September 25, 2018, 12:05:09 AM »
I know Brewer thought that the guy he saw 50 yards away down by the furniture store from behind was the same guy who was standing is his vestibule was the same guy he pointed out in the theater.  But that doesn't make it true.

What a bizarre argument, Brewer saw Oswald enter the theater and Oswald was in the theater, we even see Oswald leaving the theater.



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