Why did Oswald go to the movies?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #91 on: March 22, 2018, 05:01:10 PM »
The bag was found in the sniper's nest

You forgot the "allegedly".

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with Oswald's prints on it. It was long enough for Oswald to carry his rifle in.

"his rifle".  LOL.

But so what?  A lot of things are long enough to carry a rifle in.  That doesn't somehow prove that a rifle was carried in in them.

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Linnie Mae's original estimate of its length was about three feet.

Correction:  Bookhout reported that Linnie Mae's estimate was about 3 feet.

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  You cannot get around those facts no matter how hard you try.

There's nothing to get around.  You can't place a rifle in CE142 and you can't place CE142 as the bag that Frazier and Randle saw Oswald carrying.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #92 on: March 22, 2018, 05:03:37 PM »
Arguably, the Walker incident sets a precedent regarding Oswald's maybe not expecting to come back from a night on the town... or a day at the office.

"Arguably" is putting it mildly, since you don't have any real evidence that Oswald was involved in the Walker shooting.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #93 on: March 22, 2018, 05:05:03 PM »
He was the man who drove the assassin to work FFS. He would face the death penalty if convicted. Duh.

I didn't realize that driving an assassin to work was an actual crime.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #94 on: March 22, 2018, 05:12:57 PM »
Oswald's prints were on the bag. That means that he handled the bag.

If the identification was correct, yes.

But how does that prove that a rifle was ever in the bag?

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It was found it the sniper's nest near the shell casings that had been fired in Oswald's rifle.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.

But what time did did this bag actually show up "in the sniper's nest"?

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Linnie Mae's description of the bag she saw matched with that bag.

Mr. BALL. Now, was the length of it any similar, anywhere near similar?
Mrs. RANDLE. Well, it wasn't that long, I mean it was folded down at the top as I told you. It definitely wasn't that long.

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  Frazier admitted that Oswald could have carried the bag in such a way that it's full length would not have been viewable to him.

How?  For it to be the bag you want it to be, it would have to have been held out in front of him at a 45 degree angle for it not to stick up over his shoulder.  Pity that dishonest Bugliosi didn't actually demonstrate how Oswald "could have carried the bag in such a way".

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #95 on: March 22, 2018, 05:14:44 PM »
I'm not desperate.Nor am I stupid. Claiming that I massively misrepresented the truth is just plain stupid. What I stated was the truth. Not one word of it was a lie or a misrepresentation of the truth.

You may not be stupid, but you seem to think everybody else is.

Let's try this another way. If I say; "it could be but I don't think Oswald killed Kennedy for fun"

You would claim I said that I don't think Oswald killed Kennedy, right?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #96 on: March 22, 2018, 05:15:32 PM »
Frazier and his sister both saw Oswald with CE 142. Oswald lied to his interviewers, saying that he never carried a long package to work that morning and that he never told Frazier that he brought curtains rods with him.

You're entitled to your own opinion.  You're not entitled to your own facts.

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #97 on: March 22, 2018, 05:27:30 PM »
Frazier was not threatened with physical violence by Fritz or anyone else.

"and in comes Captain Will Fritz, who I have never seen in my life, never talked to. He brought in a typed statement, and he had a pen. He says here, sign this. He gave me a pen. I started reading it. Well, they wanted me to confess to being part of or having knowledge of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I read about two sentences of that, and I looked at him and I said that's ludicrous. I said I'm not signing that. So he drew his hand back to hit me, and I did my arm up like this because he was over here like you are. I told him -- I said -- he got very red-faced. He wasn't a real big man for his physical stature, but I hear he had a temper. Anyway, he -- I told him, I said, you know, I know there's policemen outside of the door. I said when they get in, you and I are going to have a hell of a fight."

https://www.c-span.org/video/?313792-1/lee-harvey-oswald-kennedy-assassination&start=2757
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