Why did Oswald go to the movies?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #245 on: April 11, 2018, 10:26:14 PM »
Exactly right. Why take the chance? Same with his decision to be careful about his rooming house drop-off location.

Every one of us has had situations when we imagine the worst no matter if the reality seems to dictate otherwise.

But then he leaves a back alley to walk down a major thoroughfare and stops in front of a shoe store in full view of the sales clerk long enough to "look scared" just for good measure.

So much for being careful.  But then whatever you think Oswald did that day "proves" that he's guilty.

Offline Brian Walker

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #246 on: April 11, 2018, 10:29:01 PM »
But then he leaves a back alley to walk down a major thoroughfare and stops in front of a shoe store in full view of the sales clerk long enough to "look scared" just for good measure.

So much for being careful.  But then whatever you think Oswald did that day "proves" that he's guilty.


Good point John.  He should have just stayed in a back alley.

That hindsight thing again. John knows about Brewer because he has studied the case. Oswald did not know that a sales clerk would be watching him.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #247 on: April 11, 2018, 10:32:38 PM »
I made that argument before and John I made it clear that he does understand hindsight either. He was arguing  that it made no sense for Oswald to be worried at that point because the word was not out yet. I could not get it through to him.

It has nothing to do with the word not being out.  Oswald certainly knew that nobody at the TSBD or even Marina or Ruth knew where he was rooming.

It's also the same inconsistent behavior that doesn't fit with your hypothesis.  If Oswald was trying to evade the cops, why get let off on Beckley St and go running back to the rooming house in full view of any cops that would have been on their way to the rooming house?

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #248 on: April 11, 2018, 10:53:41 PM »
He's arguing from the perspective of a defence lawyer. And of a troll. And from the notion that Oswald was innocent so why would he have cause to be nervous. He reminds me of the Melissa McCarthy 'Sean Spicer' impression, on the podium running around bashing into people (but wearing a powdered wig and lawyer's robes)

You're arguing from the notion that you're sure Oswald probably did it, but are unable to ever articulate why.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #249 on: April 11, 2018, 11:00:14 PM »

Good point John.  He should have just stayed in a back alley.

That hindsight thing again. John knows about Brewer because he has studied the case. Oswald did not know that a sales clerk would be watching him.

C'mon Brian.  Are you suggesting that a clerk being inside a shoe store during the day on a Friday would have been the least bit unexpected?  He would have seen Brewer there just as easily as Brewer saw him.  And yet, "careful Oswald" lingered there anyway.  So was he being cautious just in case or wasn't he?  It seems like he was only cautious when it fits your narrative.

Not even to mention how this careful guy supposedly hung around the Tippit crime scene emptying his gun and looking at people in the face.  Whoever this guy was, he wanted to be seen.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #250 on: April 12, 2018, 02:38:38 PM »
Mr. BALL. During the afternoon of the week----do you take tickets too?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes----I take tickets every day.
Mr. BALL. You do?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And, run the concession?
Mr. BURROUGHS. Yes.
Mr. BALL. If anybody comes in there without a ticket, what do you do, run them off?
Mr. BURROUGHS. I make it a point to stop them and ask them to go out and get a ticket. I just failed to see him when he slipped in.

Being stopped by Burroughs AND having to go out and and buy the ticket anyway from Postal: two mental notes taken.

Bad worst case scenario, Bill.

Was that too complicated for you?

(No, the quote is not hindsight. Shows that imagined worst case could be very real.)

"I just failed to see him when he slipped in."

How did Burroughs know that Lee "slipped in", if he never saw him??

Simply because Lee was in the theater does not mean he slipped in with out buying a ticket..... Burroughs, in his  testimony says that he could have been distracted when a patron entered and took his ticket without noticing anything about that person....   

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Re: Why did Oswald go to the movies?
« Reply #251 on: April 12, 2018, 02:45:50 PM »
"I just failed to see him when he slipped in."

How did Burroughs know that Lee "slipped in", if he never saw him??

Simply because Lee was in the theater does not mean he slipped in with out buying a ticket..... Burroughs, in his  testimony says that he could have been distracted when a patron entered and took his ticket without noticing anything about that person....

Who would Oswald have bought a ticket from?  Postal didn't sell him one.  He doesn't have a ticket or ticket stub on him when arrested.