When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2025, 04:01:00 PM »
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JFK was under fire from Oswald for 6 seconds.
Then 4 seconds later Hill jumped, while at that same time Hickey fired Hickey's AR15 (an accidental auto burst of at least 4 shots, the last shot hitting JFK in the head).
Hill should have (instead of jumping) grabbed the barrel of Hickey's AR15.

   You claim that SA Hickey fired 4 total shots/bursts: (1) What evidence proves that a total of 4 shots were fired from the AR-15? and, (2) Where did the other 3 shots go?

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2025, 11:57:03 PM »
   You claim that SA Hickey fired 4 total shots/bursts: (1) What evidence proves that a total of 4 shots were fired from the AR-15? and, (2) Where did the other 3 shots go?
U can search my threads devoted to Hickey. On both forums. Hickey fired 4 or 5 or 6 shots.
Hickey's Shot-1 hit kerb & injured Teague. Shot-2 hit grass. Shot-3 hit kerb. Shot-4 hit tarmac. Shot-5 hit chrome trim. Shot-6 (Z312-Z313) hit JFK in head, & cracked windshield. 

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #34 on: December 03, 2025, 02:27:46 PM »
U can search my threads devoted to Hickey. On both forums. Hickey fired 4 or 5 or 6 shots.
Hickey's Shot-1 hit kerb & injured Teague. Shot-2 hit grass. Shot-3 hit kerb. Shot-4 hit tarmac. Shot-5 hit chrome trim. Shot-6 (Z312-Z313) hit JFK in head, & cracked windshield.

   The AR-15 is a very powerful rifle. How doe shot #5 hit the "chrome trim" and Not Penetrate that trim? (I am assuming this is the "dented" chrome trim that runs  just below the top of the windshield). A clean shot from the powerful AR-15 should have had no problem penetrating that chrome trim.

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #35 on: December 03, 2025, 02:37:28 PM »
   The AR-15 is a very powerful rifle. How doe shot #5 hit the "chrome trim" and Not Penetrate that trim? (I am assuming this is the "dented" chrome trim that runs  just below the top of the windshield). A clean shot from the powerful AR-15 should have had no problem penetrating that chrome trim.
A stainless steel chromed strip/trim sitting loosely over a strong steel windshield frame must obviously stop a (say) hollow point.

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #36 on: December 03, 2025, 02:45:06 PM »
In the pix we can see that a puny chrome stripe over thin sheet steel can stop a handgun slug.
The JFK limo had a big chrome trim (usually stainless steel)(very hard) over a say 3" by 1.5" steel tube (much tougher than the sheet steel of the door in the pix), & Hickey's AR15 slug was a say 55grain hollow point & not full metal jacket. Dent shown in bottom pix.





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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2025, 02:53:13 PM »


   So, you want to compare the firepower of the AR-15 to the firepower of a "handgun"? Seriously? You are discrediting ALL of the other work you have done regarding the possible firing of the AR-15 on 11/22/63.
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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2025, 09:06:14 PM »
I officially vote that Clint Hill was preparing to leap at Z 255, but that the total time for the completion of the leap where both his feet have hit the ground is somewhere around Z-275.


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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2025, 10:16:43 PM »
   So, you want to compare the firepower of the AR-15 to the firepower of a "handgun"? Seriously? You are discrediting ALL of the other work you have done regarding the possible firing of the AR-15 on 11/22/63.
A say 65% edge-contact on a thin chromed strip stopped the large slug from entering the door, compared to the entry of its 4 mates.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2025, 10:18:55 PM by Marjan Rynkiewicz »

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Re: When-oh-when did Clint Hill leap from the Secret Service follow-up car?
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