What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?

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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2025, 12:12:45 PM »
RG-

Our admirable pillar of indefatigable intellectual supremacy, righteousness and honor:

Looks like JBC starts to look to his right ~Z-240.

JBC has trouble looking at JFK, as JFK has slumped to his (JFK's) left and toward Jackie. JBC has craned or turned his neck as much as it can go.

This is also happening in seconds, of course.

But I will concede this: JFKA researchers are chasing more leads than a blind dog in a meat-house.

I am talked out on this topic, and have been for years. The floor is yours.









Online Tom Graves

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2025, 12:40:56 PM »
It looks as though JBC starts to look to his right [in response to the sounds of the first shot] around Z-240.

If you can buck up enough courage, please compare Z-200 with Z-260.

Which of those two frames more accurately shows JBC looking over his right shoulder?

Here they are for you:

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z200.jpg

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z260.jpg
« Last Edit: November 17, 2025, 01:04:46 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2025, 01:38:58 PM »
JBC has trouble looking at JFK [in Z-240], as JFK has slumped to his (JFK's) left and toward Jackie. JBC has craned or turned his neck as much as it can go [in Z-260].

Your claim that the reason JBC can't see JFK in Z-260 is because JFK has slumped to his left, and JBC simply can't crane or turn his head far enough is disingenuous to say the least.

How do you know JBC can't crane or turn his head any farther, and regardless, what makes you think he's not looking right at JFK in Z-260, but can't "see" him?

Factoid: Connally, too, by Z-260 had already been shot (by CE-399 @ Z-222/Z-224), and the shock to his system was obviously so intense that he either couldn't "see" JFK, or, if he could see him, couldn't remember later having done so.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z260.jpg
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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2025, 02:23:55 PM »
TG-

A titan, towering like the Colossus of Rhodes over other feeble JFKA junkies, you are.

But...we disagree on this one.

Probably in the EF-JFKA and this forum you are the smartest guy.

But, I looked at the Costella and other Z films a million times, and lined it up best I could with testimonies, including the frequent "bang...bang-bang" account of audible gunshots.

As stated, I doubt JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat after being shot through the chest, having his right wrist shot through, and the slug burrowed into his thigh.

That dog don't hunt.

A reasonable assumption is that JBC would be immediately incapacitated, and would fall forward into his wife's lap. Seems likely to me.

Why is it impossible for LHO to have had co-conspirators? For some G-2 guys to work on his pro-Cuba blah-blah, and get him to shoot at JFK limo?

Maybe so. Maybe not.

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2025, 11:17:52 PM »
I doubt JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat after being shot through the chest, having his right wrist shot through, and the slug burrowed into his thigh. A reasonable assumption is that JBC would be immediately incapacitated and would fall forward into his wife's lap.

JBC's spinal cord and vital organs were intact after he was hit by CE-399 at Z-222/Z-224, so there was nothing preventing him from turning around (which he did) if he wanted to.
« Last Edit: November 17, 2025, 11:20:23 PM by Tom Graves »

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2025, 12:05:30 AM »
What are your favorite reasons for believing Oswald didn't do it?

1) He was a crummy shot.

2) He had a crummy rifle.

3) He didn't even own a rifle.

4) There were no nitrates on his cheek.

5) He couldn't possibly have fired three shots -- with two hitting the target -- in 5.8 seconds.

6) As those KGB officers in Mexico City said, he was way too nervous fire a rifle accurately, so it must have been the CIA.

7) He admired JFK.

8 ) He was standing on the front steps!

9) He was in the second-floor lunchroom, buying a Dr. Pepper I mean a Coca-Cola.

10) He said he didn't do it and that he was just a patsy!

11) [fill in the blank]


I think FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover's memo only 2 days after the assassination should be at or near the top of everyone's list of reasons to consider that Oswald didn't do it... or at least was not the mastermind behind the event...
When top law enforcement officials want to direct the narrative early on in order to sway public opinion - without any semblance of a thorough investigation - they are most likely trying to cover up something. They are not after the truth of the matter in any regard. 
“The thing I am concerned about… is having something issued so we can convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin.” [J. Edgar Hoover, Memo to Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach, 11/24/63]






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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2025, 12:32:07 AM »
TG--

You are an indomitable, indefatigable colossus, a pillar of gimlet-eyed insights, and a towering figure upon the JFKA research scene.

But I think JBC did not do a 180-degree turn in his seat after being shot through the chest (taking out four inches of rib and leaving a large ragged exit hole in his chest), having his right wrist shot through and fractured, and having the slug burrow into his thigh. I think he was immediately incapacitated.

My and my dog are sticking with our narrative.

LHO is still the best suspect for the TSBD6 sniper.

What the GK smoke-and-bang show was about, I don't know. A diversion?

The floor is yours.