What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?

[Tom Graves]

Gov. JBC said he heard the first shot, turned around to his right, then began to turn forward, and then was shot in the back and "pushed forward."

Correct.

He was looking to his right about the time he heard the missing-everything "Z-124" shot.

About 1.5 seconds after the missing-everything "Z-124" shot, he consciously started turning his head rapidly to his left until he was looking straight ahead at Z-161 (as can be seen in the Croft photo).

Then, at Z-165 or so, he started turning his head and upper torso back to his right to try to catch a glimpse of JFK "over his right shoulder" to see if he was okay.

But he couldn't "see" JFK because JFK's head was turned really, really far to his right and his hand was raised to wave to someone and therefore it and forearm blocked JBC's full view of JFK's in-profile-and-therefore-hard-to-recognize face.

Not "seeing" JFK and still wondering if he was okay, JBC started turning back to his left to try to catch a glimpse of him over his left shoulder, but he only made it about 1/4 of the way there (i.e., he was still turned to his right) when he (and JFK) was hit by CE-399 between Z-222 and Z-224.

If you'll look at Z-229, you'll see that JBC was "pushed forward" when he (and JFK) was hit by CE-399 around Z-222 / Z-224.

Have you never looked at the individual frames in the Costella Frame-by-Frame thingy, nor watched the Zapruder film with numbered frames?

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

I gave a virile "maybe" reply, and I am sticking with it.

I have looked at the Costella enough times for one life.

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Equivocation is the mark of a real man.

Maybe!

[Tom Graves]

I have looked at the Costella enough times for one life.

Quitter.

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

Maybe I am a quitter, maybe not.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

OK, when does this happen in the Z-film?

Maybe at ~Z-295.

That might be my take on the matter, and it could be maybe I stick with my take on the matter, perhaps.

The way a real man does.

[Tom Graves]

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42) When does this happen in the Z-film?

Why do you trust the veracity of the recollections of a person (a loquacious, "self-confidant" politician, at that) regarding the circumstances and happenings surrounding his being shot in the chest by a high-velocity bullet?

Hint: JBC wasn't "doubled over" by the Z-222 / Z-224 bullet.

He was pushed forward an inch or two (see Z-229), and then he turned almost completely around to see who had shot him and/or to say something to JFK and Jackie.

After that, his wife pulled him down into her lap and he lost consciousness after a couple of seconds.

[Benjamin Cole]

TG-

You are a towering pillar of fortitude, formidable in all regards.

But I do not believe JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat, to check on JFK after being shot through the chest.

I am Mr. Maybe-man, and I am sticking with maybe he did, or maybe not. Maybe not I lean.

[Tom Graves]

I do not believe JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat, to check on JFK after being shot through the chest.

News flash: Neither do I.

In reality, the "I Gotta See If JFK's Okay" turn JBC was referring to started at Z-165 when he turned his head and upper torso far) to his right (after having made a rapid and conscious head turn to his left between Z-150 and 161) in a futile attempt to catch a glimpse of JFK over his right shoulder.

I've already pointed that out to you a couple of times.

Or do you think his starting to turn far to his right at Z-165 was just to check out the hot chicks JFK may have been waving to?

PS

"Towering"?

Not really.

Having shrunk two inches over the past four decades, I'm only 6' 3", now.

[Tom Graves]

Connally: "I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. [...] The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double." (1 HSCA 42)

When does this happen in the Z-film?

It didn't. He fantasized it.

Or Nellie fantasized it and convinced gullible John.

His misremembering it like that is just one of the many JFKA anomalies the KGB* has "made hay" from over the past sixty-six years.

*Today's SVR and FSB


Bonus post:

I've edited my previous post.

You wrote:

"I do not believe JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat, to check on JFK after being shot through the chest."

My edited reply:

Neither do I.

In reality, the "I Gotta See If JFK's Okay" turn JBC was referring to started at Z-165 when he turned his head and upper torso far to his right (after having made a rapid and conscious head turn to his left between Z-150 and 161) in a futile attempt to catch a glimpse of JFK over his right shoulder.

I've already pointed that out to you a couple of times.

Or, do you think his starting to turn so far to his right at Z-165 was just to check out the hot chicks JFK may have been waving to?

PS

Me, "towering"?

Not really.

Having shrunk two inches over the past four decades, I'm only 6' 3", now.


Addendum:


Rhetorical questions regarding Z-frame 187:

1) Why is JBC's head turned so far to his right?

Answer: To see if JFK is okay after hearing Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124".

2) Why is the guy (Kenny O'Donnell) riding in the passenger's-side jump seat in the Secret Service follow-up car tilting his head so far to his right?

Answer: To see if JFK is okay after hearing Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124".

3) Why is Rosemary Willis looking back towards the TSBD instead of JFK and Jackie in the limo?

Answer: Because she heard Oswald's first, missing-everything, shot at "Z-124" when it came from that direction.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/z187.jpg