What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?

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Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2025, 12:23:24 PM »
TG-

Maybe, maybe, maybe.

Yes, the GSR on LHO's cheeks is not meaningful. Way before the JFKA, the Buffalo Police Department fired lots of rifles many many times, and rarely got GSR on the shooter's cheeks.

I think LHO just ran down the stairs before Adams and Styles.

Nobody got a good look at the figure in the TSBD6 sniper's nest. Could be LHO, probably was. He is best suspect.

But...

Gov. JBC said he heard the first shot, turned around to his right, then began to turn forward, and then was shot in the back and "pushed forward."

That happens about Z-295.

If JBC is shot by the same slug that passed through JFK, he appears unaware of it, and makes a 180-degree turn in his seat to look for JFK...we (Z-film watchers) see the left profile of JBC's face after he was shot through the chest, having his wrist broken, and slug buried in this thigh.

My take is JBC was shot ~Z-295, and JFK at Z-313.

So, two shooters, both fro behind.

A smoke-and-bang show at the GK---a diversion? A shot? The one that fractured JBC's wrist?

I don't know.

Caveat emptor and draw your own conclusions.

And I firmly, without equivocation, in a virile way, say: "Maybe!"

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2025, 12:24:48 PM »
Gov. JBC said he heard the first shot, turned around to his right, then began to turn forward, and then was shot in the back and "pushed forward."

Correct.

He was looking to his right about the time he heard the missing-everything "Z-124" shot.

About 1.5 seconds after the missing-everything "Z-124" shot, he consciously started turning his head rapidly to his left until he was looking straight ahead at Z-161 (as can be seen in the Croft photo).

Then, at Z-165 or so, he started turning his head and upper torso back to his right to try to catch a glimpse of JFK "over his right shoulder" to see if he was okay.

But he couldn't "see" JFK because JFK's head was turned really, really far to his right and his hand was raised to wave to someone and therefore it and forearm blocked JBC's full view of JFK's in-profile-and-therefore-hard-to-recognize face.

Not "seeing" JFK and still wondering if he was okay, JBC started turning back to his left to try to catch a glimpse of him over his left shoulder, but he only made it about 1/4 of the way there (i.e., he was still turned to his right) when he (and JFK) was hit by CE-399 between Z-222 and Z-224.

If you'll look at Z-229, you'll see that JBC was "pushed forward" when he (and JFK) was hit by CE-399 around Z-222 / Z-224.

Have you never looked at the individual frames in the Costella Frame-by-Frame thingy, nor watched the Zapruder film with numbered frames?



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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2025, 01:17:33 PM »
TG-

I gave a virile "maybe" reply, and I am sticking with it.

I have looked at the Costella enough times for one life.

https://assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/

Equivocation is the mark of a real man.

Maybe!

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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2025, 01:22:09 PM »
I have looked at the Costella enough times for one life.

Quitter.


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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2025, 12:57:56 AM »
TG-

Maybe I am a quitter, maybe not.

Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42)

OK, when does this happen in the Z-film?

Maybe at ~Z-295.

That might be my take on the matter, and it could be maybe I stick with my take on the matter, perhaps.

The way a real man does.






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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2025, 01:29:56 AM »
Connally: I was knocked over, just doubled over by the force of the bullet. It went in my back and came out my chest about 2 inches below and the left of my right nipple. The force of the bullet drove my body over almost double and when I looked, immediately I could see I was just drenched with blood. (1 HSCA 42) When does this happen in the Z-film?

Why do you trust the veracity of the recollections of a person (a loquacious, "self-confidant" politician, at that) regarding the circumstances and happenings surrounding his being shot in the chest by a high-velocity bullet?

Hint: JBC wasn't "doubled over" by the Z-222 / Z-224 bullet.

He was pushed forward an inch or two (see Z-229), and then he turned almost completely around to see who had shot him and/or to say something to JFK and Jackie.

After that, his wife pulled him down into her lap and he lost consciousness after a couple of seconds.
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Re: What's your favorite reason for believing Oswald didn't do it?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2025, 07:09:47 AM »
TG-

You are a towering pillar of fortitude, formidable in all regards.

But I do not believe JBC did a 180-degree turn in his seat, to check on JFK after being shot through the chest.

I am Mr. Maybe-man, and I am sticking with maybe he did, or maybe not. Maybe not I lean.