Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One

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Online Tom Graves

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2025, 02:04:40 AM »

The FBI also takes a hands-off approach and tells its agents that no one is to meet with any Garrison official.
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Is that "hands off," or is that a lack or cooperation that one might normally expect between a district attorney and the FBI?

BTW, if Solie played a role in the whole Garrison-Shaw fandango, I would like to know what it was.

It may have been just to convince Garrison that Shaw hadn't really "worked" for the evil, evil CIA.

A "mole" does, after all, have to play it straight sometimes to maintain his or her cover.

Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2025, 02:31:36 AM »
TG-

Verily, but if what KGB-stooge Bruce Solie was doing was in fact trying to steer investigators away from LHO, his asset..then that idea should be explored.

It is a bit fishy that a CIA "highly paid contract source"--Shaw--was ding-donging around with LHO.

Was LHO actually trying to penetrate a part of CIA, on Solie's instigation?

Could Solie use LHO to plant misinformation within CIA ranks?

Just thinking out loud...

Online Tom Graves

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2025, 02:57:25 AM »
TG-

Verily, but if what KGB-stooge Bruce Solie was doing was in fact trying to steer investigators away from LHO, his asset..then that idea should be explored.

It is a bit fishy that a CIA "highly paid contract source"--Shaw--was ding-donging around with LHO.

Was LHO actually trying to penetrate a part of CIA, on Solie's instigation?

Could Solie use LHO to plant misinformation within CIA ranks?

Just thinking out loud...

1) What "investigators," and why would they be thinking about investigating Oswald in 1967, 1968, 1969?

2) You seem to be conspiracy minded to the max regarding the JFKA, be it the evil, evil CIA or the evil, evil, evil KGB. (Note the truly deserved extra "evil" for the latter.)

3) I believe you're over-thinking it.

4) Do you really believe Clay Shaw was "a highly paid CIA contract source"?

5) Do you really believe he was "ding-donging around with Oswald"?
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Offline Fred Litwin

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2025, 03:12:40 AM »
There is no such thing has a highly paid contract source.


Online Tom Graves

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2025, 03:15:26 AM »
There is no such thing has a highly paid contract source.

We know that, Fred.

(Or at least I do.)

Online Benjamin Cole

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2025, 08:59:54 AM »
FL-

That is the term used by the CIA historian to describe Clay Shaw.

According to a declassified 1992 CIA document produced by the CIA's History Review Group, Clay Shaw was a "highly paid contract source" for the agency until 1956.

AFAIK, no one in the CIA has ever said that definition of Shaw was misleading, or in error.

If the CIA historian's description of Shaw is misleading, then the CIA should clarify it. That description of Shaw has been in the public record for 32 years, without correction.

If Bruce Solie was somehow involved in denting, or diverting the Garrison investigation into Shaw and LHO, I would like to know how.

Have you ever sought an official correction from the CIA, regarding their description of Shaw as a "highly paid contract source"?

If not, why not?

If so, what was the CIA response?






Online Tom Graves

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Re: Did Clay Shaw Get the Help He Deserved?, Part One
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2025, 09:09:28 AM »
FL-

That is the term used by the CIA historian to describe Clay Shaw.

According to a declassified 1992 CIA document produced by the CIA's History Review Group, Clay Shaw was a "highly paid contract source" for the agency until 1956.

AFAIK, no one in the CIA has ever said that definition of Shaw was misleading, or in error.

If the CIA historian's description of Shaw is misleading, then the CIA should clarify it. That description of Shaw has been in the public record for 32 years, without correction.

If Bruce Solie was somehow involved in denting, or diverting the Garrison investigation into Shaw and LHO, I would like to know how.

Have you ever sought an official correction from the CIA, regarding their description of Shaw as a "highly paid contract source"?

If not, why not?

If so, what was the CIA response?

Why would the CIA -- whose official position on Yuri Nosenko is that he was a true defector (LOL!) -- correct J. Kenneth McDonald's cobbled-together mischaracterization of Clay Shaw?

Factoid: Putative KGB staff officer Nosenko was "cleared" by Mole Solie in October 1968 via a bogus polygraph exam and a specious report.

All I know is that in 2021, renowned British JFKA researcher (and conspiracy theorist!!!) Malcolm Blunt said in that YouTube video you watched that Bruce Solie was "all over the Kennedy investigation and all over Clay Shaw for Jim Garrison."

Perhaps you can contact him through his colleague, Bart Kamp, at Kamp's "Prayer Man" website!
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