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Re: Undeniable Proof of Fraud: The Impossible JFK Autopsy Brain Photos
« Reply #91 on: June 21, 2026, 03:59:00 PM »
Translation: You have no clue how to explain the evidence I've presented, and you've run out of flimsy dodges and specious arguments.

Your howler that a 4-inch difference in the rear head entry wound's location is no big deal and does not matter will go down as one of the all-time gaffes in this forum. Not even the worst WC apologists have been so clueless and silly as to make that laughable argument. Did you just not study basic geometry in high school?

I should add that the 4-inch difference not only greatly affects the trajectory back to the firing point, but it also greatly affects the bullet's trajectory through the head and its exit point. Even someone with just a high-school-level grasp of geometry can easily discern this.

Way back in 1976, researcher Howard Roffman pointed out that the photos and x-rays of the test skulls used in the WC's head-shot wound ballistics test prove that not one of the FMJ bullets that hit at or near the EOP site created an exit wound even close to the location of the exit wound described and illustrated by the autopsy doctors. All the exit wounds included a large part of the bones under the face, which is exactly what you would expect from an FMJ bullet entering near the EOP at a downward angle of 15 degrees. Many other scholars have noted this contradiction, including Dr. David Mantik:

Then there is the matter of a shot from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD). WC’s ballistics expert, Dr. Alfred Olivier, used the Mannlicher-Carcano to shoot at human skulls. Firing from a position above and behind, he aimed at the low occipital entry identified in the autopsy report. This bullet blew out the right side of the face (Figure 2). (JFK Assassination Paradoxes, 2022, p. 3)

Of course, the exit wounds from the WC test skulls also bear no resemblance to the revised version of the exit wound described and illustrated by the HSCA's medical panel (FPP). This is one of the problems that Howard Donahue identified with the FPP's version of the exit wound. Many other scholars have also highlighted this contradiction.

The unsolvable trajectory problem posed by assuming the rear head shot came from the sixth-floor window is why Larry Sturdivan, who accepts the EOP site, has had to float the specious theory that after the bullet entered the skull, it somehow, someway suddenly veered sharply upward, something that not one of the FMJ bullets in the WC's test did. This is also why the WC's experts could only get the EOP-site's trajectory to "work" by assuming that JFK's head was tilted well over 50 degrees forward when the bullet struck.

The WC's test skulls were actual human skulls that were filled with ballistics gelatin and that had gelatin on top of the outer table of the skull to simulate the soft tissue covering human skulls. Dr. Alfred Olivier, who conducted the test, explained this to the WC:

Dr. OLIVIER. Human skulls, we take these human skulls and they are imbedded and filled with 20 percent gelatin. As I mentioned before, 20 percent gelatin is a pretty good simulant for body tissues.

When I say 20 percent, it is 20 percent weight of the dry gelatin, 80 percent moisture.

The skull, the cranial cavity, is filled with this and the surface is coated with a gelatin and then it is trimmed down to approximate the thickness of the tissues overlying the skull, the soft tissues of the head. (5 H 87)


Howard Roffman was the first to point out that the bullet fragmentation seen in the two released x-rays of the test skulls looks nothing like the bullet fragmentation seen in the JFK autopsy skull x-rays:

These x-rays depict gelatin-filled human skulls shot with ammunition of the type allegedly used by Oswald. They were classified by the government and remained suppressed until recently; they are printed here for the first time ever. What they reveal is that Oswald's rifle could not have produced the head wounds suffered by President Kennedy. The bullet that hit the president in the head exploded into a multitude of minuscule fragments. One Secret Service agent described the appearance of these metal fragments on the x-rays: "The whole head looked like a little mass of stars." The fragmentation depicted on these test x-rays obviously differs from that described in the president's head. The upper x-ray reveals only relatively large fragments concentrated at the point of entrance; the lower reveals only a few tiny fragments altogether. This gives dramatic, suppressed proof that Oswald did not fire the shot that killed President Kennedy. (Photo: National Archives) (Presumed Guilty, 1976, photo pages 8 and 9, chapter 5)
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Re: Undeniable Proof of Fraud: The Impossible JFK Autopsy Brain Photos
« Reply #92 on: June 21, 2026, 04:21:20 PM »
I should add that the 4-inch difference not only greatly affects the trajectory back to the firing point, but it also greatly affects the bullet's trajectory through the head and its exit point. Even someone with just a high-school-level grasp of geometry can easily discern this.

Way back in 1976, researcher Howard Roffman pointed out that the photos and x-rays of the test skulls used in the WC's head-shot wound ballistics test prove that not one of the FMJ bullets that hit at or near the EOP site created an exit wound even close to the location of the exit wound described and illustrated by the autopsy doctors. All the exit wounds included a large part of the bones under the face, which is exactly what you would expect from an FMJ bullet entering near the EOP at a downward angle of 15 degrees. Many other scholars have noted this contradiction, including Dr. David Mantik:

Then there is the matter of a shot from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository (TSBD). WC’s ballistics expert, Dr. Alfred Olivier, used the Mannlicher-Carcano to shoot at human skulls. Firing from a position above and behind, he aimed at the low occipital entry identified in the autopsy report. This bullet blew out the right side of the face (Figure 2). (JFK Assassination Paradoxes, 2022, p. 3)

Of course, the exit wounds from the WC test skulls also bear no resemblance to the revised version of the exit wound described and illustrated by the HSCA's medical panel (FPP). This is one of the problems that Howard Donahue identified with the FPP's version of the exit wound. Many other scholars have also highlighted this contradiction.

The unsolvable trajectory problem posed by assuming the rear head shot came from the sixth-floor window is why Larry Sturdivan, who accepts the EOP site, has had to float the specious theory that after the bullet entered the skull, it somehow, someway suddenly veered sharply upward, something that not one of the FMJ bullets in the WC's test did. This is also why the WC's experts could only get the EOP-site's trajectory to "work" by assuming that JFK's head was tilted well over 50 degrees forward when the bullet struck.

The WC's test skulls were actual human skulls that were filled with ballistics gelatin and that had gelatin on top of the outer table of the skull to simulate the soft tissue covering human skulls. Dr. Alfred Olivier, who conducted the test, explained this to the WC:

Dr. OLIVIER. Human skulls, we take these human skulls and they are imbedded and filled with 20 percent gelatin. As I mentioned before, 20 percent gelatin is a pretty good simulant for body tissues.

When I say 20 percent, it is 20 percent weight of the dry gelatin, 80 percent moisture.

The skull, the cranial cavity, is filled with this and the surface is coated with a gelatin and then it is trimmed down to approximate the thickness of the tissues overlying the skull, the soft tissues of the head. (5 H 87)


Howard Roffman was the first to point out that the bullet fragmentation seen in the two released x-rays of the test skulls looks nothing like the bullet fragmentation seen in the JFK autopsy skull x-rays:

These x-rays depict gelatin-filled human skulls shot with ammunition of the type allegedly used by Oswald. They were classified by the government and remained suppressed until recently; they are printed here for the first time ever. What they reveal is that Oswald's rifle could not have produced the head wounds suffered by President Kennedy. The bullet that hit the president in the head exploded into a multitude of minuscule fragments. One Secret Service agent described the appearance of these metal fragments on the x-rays: "The whole head looked like a little mass of stars." The fragmentation depicted on these test x-rays obviously differs from that described in the president's head. The upper x-ray reveals only relatively large fragments concentrated at the point of entrance; the lower reveals only a few tiny fragments altogether. This gives dramatic, suppressed proof that Oswald did not fire the shot that killed President Kennedy. (Photo: National Archives) (Presumed Guilty, 1976, photo pages 8 and 9, chapter 5)

This is MTG acting as if gunshots can be duplicated. Gunshots are like snowflakes. No two are exactly alike.

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Re: Undeniable Proof of Fraud: The Impossible JFK Autopsy Brain Photos
« Reply #93 on: Yesterday at 05:56:29 PM »
Two important facts should be kept in mind: One, the four radiologists consulted by the HSCA medical panel (FPP) were unable to identify an exit point for the head shot on the autopsy skull x-rays. Two, the FPP claimed the x-rays show no missing frontal bone, but the evidence is clear that they were wrong. The issue of the damage to the frontal bone has a direct bearing on the authenticity of the autopsy brain photos.

Lone-gunman theorists have virtually ignored the telling fact that the HSCA's four radiology consultants were unable to identify an exit point on the skull x-rays. The consultants were Dr. Gerald M. McDonnel, Dr. Norman Chase, Dr. William Seaman, and David O. Davis.

If anyone doubts this, they can read the findings that the radiologists presented to the FPP. Here are links to them:

McDonnel (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0114a.htm)
Chase (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0146a.htm)
Seaman (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0166b.htm)
Davis (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0116b.htm)

Renowned researcher John Hunt commented on this important point:

Four radiologists were consulted by the FPP over a six-month period beginning in February 1978. None reported an identifiable exit point. The closest an HSCA radiology consultant came to claiming to identify an outshoot point was Dr. David Davis, who reported:

"It seems apparent that explosive impact occurred in this calvarium. It also seems reasonable to assume that the exit point is near the coronal suture on the right side, about 5 or 6, or perhaps slightly more, cm above the pterion. (7 HSCA 224)"

Why it “seem[ed] reasonable” to Davis “to assume that the exit point” was anywhere is left entirely to the imagination of the reader, for Davis never explained the rationale upon which he based his assumption. Davis’ unsupported and equivocal speculation not withstanding, the x-rays did not reveal any outshoot points. ("A Demonstrable Impossibility: The HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel’s Misrepresentation of the Kennedy Assassination Medical Evidence," https://www.history-matters.com/essays/jfkmed/ADemonstrableImpossibility/ADemonstrableImpossibility.htm#_edn2)


The FPP ignored this fact and claimed to have located the outshoot point in the frontal bone.

Also, incredibly, the FPP's final report claimed that no frontal bone was missing. They most likely made this claim (1) because JFK's forehead and the area just behind his front hairline appear intact in the autopsy head photos, and (2) because the autopsy brain photos do not show the damage or missing tissue that would have been caused when the bullet blew out a large piece of frontal bone. However,

-- Dr. McDonnel said the x-rays show missing frontal bone, observing that "a portion of the right frontal bone" is missing (7 HSCA 218, 228).

-- Dr. Lawrence Angel, a forensic anthropologist who advised the FPP on the placement of the skull fragments, said frontal bone was missing. In fact, Dr. Angel said that the Delta skull fragment, i.e., the large triangular-shaped skull fragment, is "clearly frontal bone" (7 HSCA 229, 239).

-- Dr. J. Thornton Boswell, one of the autopsy doctors, diagrammed a sizable portion of missing frontal bone in his autopsy face sheet (17 H 46, CE 397, https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0036b.htm).

-- Dr. Pierre Fink, the only one of the autopsy doctors who was a certified forensic pathologist, stated in his report to General Bloomberg that frontal bone was missing (see MD 28, p. 5, https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md28/html/Image04.htm).

-- Dr. John Lattimer, the first independent doctor to be allowed to see the autopsy x-rays and photos at the National Archives, said the x-rays show a large portion of the right frontal bone to be missing ("Observations Based on a Review of the Autopsy Photographs, X-rays, and Related Materials of the Late President John F. Kennedy, Medical Times, 1972, 100:6, p. 53.)

-- Dr. David Mantik and Dr. Michael Chesser have confirmed that the skull x-rays show a sizable amount of missing frontal bone.

When the bullet blasted out the Delta fragment from the frontal bone, it would have had to tear through the righthand side of the frontal lobe and naturally would have blasted out part of the right frontal lobe in the process. But, the brain photos show no missing issue in that area of the frontal lobe (nor in the lefthand side of the frontal lobe).




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Re: Undeniable Proof of Fraud: The Impossible JFK Autopsy Brain Photos
« Reply #94 on: Yesterday at 08:34:50 PM »
Two important facts should be kept in mind: One, the four radiologists consulted by the HSCA medical panel (FPP) were unable to identify an exit point for the head shot on the autopsy skull x-rays.

Two, the FPP claimed the x-rays show no missing frontal bone, but the evidence is clear that they were wrong. The issue of the damage to the frontal bone has a direct bearing on the authenticity of the autopsy brain photos. [/quote]

Is that what David Lifton told you. That old turd was debunked decades ago. [/quote]

Lone-gunman theorists have virtually ignored the telling fact that the HSCA's four radiology consultants were unable to identify an exit point on the skull x-rays. The consultants were Dr. Gerald M. McDonnel, Dr. Norman Chase, Dr. William Seaman, and David O. Davis.[/quote]

If anyone doubts this, they can read the findings that the radiologists presented to the FPP. Here are links to them:

McDonnel (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0114a.htm)
Chase (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0146a.htm)
Seaman (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0166b.htm)
Davis (https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/html/HSCA_Vol7_0116b.htm)
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I only needed to read the first one to know you did what you usually do. You parse your words to make it seem like the person you are citing said something different than was actually said.

  1. Contrary to your earlier statement , McDonnel stated there was a portion of the POSERIOR of the frontal bone was missing.
  2. The x-rays showed no evidence of manipulation.
  3. The report does not say McDonnel was unable to find a point of exit. His report didn't even mention an exit.

Did you actually read the reports you cited or did you deliberately misrepresent them?
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Renowned researcher John Hunt commented on this important point:

Four radiologists were consulted by the FPP over a six-month period beginning in February 1978. None reported an identifiable exit point. The closest an HSCA radiology consultant came to claiming to identify an outshoot point was Dr. David Davis, who reported:

"It seems apparent that explosive impact occurred in this calvarium. It also seems reasonable to assume that the exit point is near the coronal suture on the right side, about 5 or 6, or perhaps slightly more, cm above the pterion. (7 HSCA 224)"

Why it “seem[ed] reasonable” to Davis “to assume that the exit point” was anywhere is left entirely to the imagination of the reader, for Davis never explained the rationale upon which he based his assumption. Davis’ unsupported and equivocal speculation not withstanding, the x-rays did not reveal any outshoot points. ("A Demonstrable Impossibility: The HSCA Forensic Pathology Panel’s Misrepresentation of the Kennedy Assassination Medical Evidence," https://www.history-matters.com/essays/jfkmed/ADemonstrableImpossibility/ADemonstrableImpossibility.htm#_edn2)


Again, most of the people you cited were silent on the issue of the exit wound. That is quite a bit different from them saying they "were unable to identify an exit point for the head shot on the autopsy skull x-rays." which is what you claimed in your opening sentence.
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The FPP ignored this fact and claimed to have located the outshoot point in the frontal bone.

Because it wasn't a fact. It was your misrepresentation of what was said.
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Also, incredibly, the FPP's final report claimed that no frontal bone was missing. They most likely made this claim (1) because JFK's forehead and the area just behind his front hairline appear intact in the autopsy head photos, and (2) because the autopsy brain photos do not show the damage or missing tissue that would have been caused when the bullet blew out a large piece of frontal bone.

-- Dr. McDonnel said the x-rays show missing frontal bone, observing that "a portion of the right frontal bone" is missing (7 HSCA 218, 228).

Now you are flat out lying. On page 218, item #1 of McDonnel's report which YOU cited, states there was "a portion of the posterior aspect of the right frontal bone" missing. You deliberately left out the words "posterior aspect" from your quote which significantly alters what McDonnel wrote.
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-- Dr. Lawrence Angel, a forensic anthropologist who advised the FPP on the placement of the skull fragments, said frontal bone was missing. In fact, Dr. Angel said that the Delta skull fragment, i.e., the large triangular-shaped skull fragment, is "clearly frontal bone" (7 HSCA 229, 239).

I'm betting this is another one of your misrepresentations just like the one you made with McDonnel. Why don't you provide an exact quote of what Angel said, IN CONTEXT, rather than you dishonest paraphrasing of what was said.
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-- Dr. J. Thornton Boswell, one of the autopsy doctors, diagrammed a sizable portion of missing frontal bone in his autopsy face sheet (17 H 46, CE 397, https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/html/WH_Vol17_0036b.htm).

See above

-- Dr. Pierre Fink, the only one of the autopsy doctors who was a certified forensic pathologist, stated in his report to General Bloomberg that frontal bone was missing (see MD 28, p. 5, https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/arrb/master_med_set/md28/html/Image04.htm).[/quote]

I got a 404 - Not Found on this reference. Probably a good thing for you.
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-- Dr. John Lattimer, the first independent doctor to be allowed to see the autopsy x-rays and photos at the National Archives, said the x-rays show a large portion of the right frontal bone to be missing ("Observations Based on a Review of the Autopsy Photographs, X-rays, and Related Materials of the Late President John F. Kennedy, Medical Times, 1972, 100:6, p. 53.)

No link provided. No way to tell how much you misrepresented this claim.
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-- Dr. David Mantik and Dr. Michael Chesser have confirmed that the skull x-rays show a sizable amount of missing frontal bone.

Again, no link provided.

When the bullet blasted out the Delta fragment from the frontal bone, it would have had to tear through the righthand side of the frontal lobe and naturally would have blasted out part of the right frontal lobe in the process. But, the brain photos show no missing issue in that area of the frontal lobe (nor in the lefthand side of the frontal lobe).
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You are relying on many people not knowing what the frontal bone encompasses. It is not limited to the forehead. It extends to the front half of the top of the head and around the sides to the temples to use laymen's terms. The blow out along the upper right side of JFK's head did extend to the "POSTERIOR ASPECT" of the frontal bone, words you seem to have deliberately left out in your claims of damage to the frontal bone in order to misrepresent what these various sources had to say about the damage to JFK's skull. The following link shows the extent of the frontal bone:
https://www.theskeletalsystem.net/skull-bones/frontal-bone.html