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Online Brian Doyle

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How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #462 on: August 14, 2026, 07:30:30 PM »
The point stands unanswered that finding out who transferred the films to digital files at NBC will trace who last had knowledge of their where-abouts...

The current internet research community is more interested in suppressing evidence than doing the simple follow-throughs necessary to find it...

They prefers cliques to good research...

Watch what I'm doing here Royell and learn some highly skilled research techniques from a skilled expert...

The unspoken message on The Education Forum from Iler and DiEugenio to Kamp is that we will protect you and your highly damaging Prayer Man efforts and we will use wicked censorship of innocent researchers with good evidence to do it...
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #463 on: August 15, 2026, 12:17:32 AM »
The point stands unanswered that finding out who transferred the films to digital files at NBC will trace who last had knowledge of their where-abouts...

The current internet research community is more interested in suppressing evidence than doing the simple follow-throughs necessary to find it...

They prefers cliques to good research...

Watch what I'm doing here Royell and learn some highly skilled research techniques from a skilled expert...

The unspoken message on The Education Forum from Iler and DiEugenio to Kamp is that we will protect you and your highly damaging Prayer Man efforts and we will use wicked censorship of innocent researchers with good evidence to do it...

Yeah Brian, for about the third or fourth time you are being asked to provide evidence for your claims regarding the identification/photo analysis of the men on the extension.
Your credibility is on the line here.
You seem to think you can just slide through this forum making grandiose claims that you don't have to back up with evidence/citation/ links.
You are wrong.
I get the impression you believe you are a key JFKA researcher whose pronouncements should be swallowed down without question.
You are wrong.
If you don't have evidence to back up your claims then shut up.
Go away.
If you think you are going to be unchallenged...you are wrong.

Show one scrap of evidence demonstrating that the men on the Elm Street extension are Shelley and Lovelady, other than the single disputed Sprague image that is the focus of this thread.
Post your evidence/citation/links.
If all you have is your unfounded pronouncements then just go away, you have nothing to contribute.

Online Brian Doyle

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How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #464 on: August 15, 2026, 04:56:17 PM »

You're just asking for proof of what's already been proven...

When the two men seen fast-walking up the extension are seen wearing the same clothes as Lovelady & Shelley, have the same plaid pattern, bald spot, body type, black jacket, white shirt collar, duck's Bahookie hair doo, and are where they are supposed to be according to testimony, that's usually good enough for proof with credible researchers...I have no interest in obnoxious moot court silly games...

I see no evidence that the Sprague copy has been altered...

The 6th Floor Museum copy will show the same thing as Sprague...

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #465 on: August 15, 2026, 05:20:40 PM »
You're just asking for proof of what's already been proven...

When the two men seen fast-walking up the extension are seen wearing the same clothes as Lovelady & Shelley, have the same plaid pattern, bald spot, body type, black jacket, white shirt collar, duck's Bahookie hair doo, and are where they are supposed to be according to testimony, that's usually good enough for proof with credible researchers...I have no interest in obnoxious moot court silly games...

I see no evidence that the Sprague copy has been altered...

The 6th Floor Museum copy will show the same thing as Sprague...

Brian, you obviously need some representation with an agent, say, Regnery Press, where I shopped around Leo Damore’s uh, vault back in ‘95. Al wisely turned me down, but I think he might take you on.  Give it a go, tell him I sent you. What have you got to lose? Bring lots of AI printouts on Junior Jarman, might help a bit.
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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #466 on: August 15, 2026, 10:38:23 PM »
You're just asking for proof of what's already been proven...

When the two men seen fast-walking up the extension are seen wearing the same clothes as Lovelady & Shelley, have the same plaid pattern, bald spot, body type, black jacket, white shirt collar, duck's Bahookie hair doo, and are where they are supposed to be according to testimony, that's usually good enough for proof with credible researchers...I have no interest in obnoxious moot court silly games...

I see no evidence that the Sprague copy has been altered...

The 6th Floor Museum copy will show the same thing as Sprague...

Listen Brian, you're clearly not a stupid person but there is something a little unsavoury about your approach to this issue.
You constantly repeat that Shelley and Lovelady "are where they are supposed to be according to testimony" but this is a bare-faced lie. It's really not on, to keep repeating this ludicrous claim over and over. You have been challenged on this a number of times but you offer nothing but childish daydreams. The testimony you are referring to is their WC testimony. When it's pointed out to you that, according to their WC testimony, BOTH MEN stayed on the steps for at least 3 minutes before they left the steps you cry that the conspirators made them lie. But if that's the case how can they be where they are supposed to be "according to testimony"? I would like you to answer this question, but you won't, because you are not credible. You are a blowhard who refuses to back up his claims with any kind of evidence.
You also conveniently forget that, according to their WC testimonies, BOTH MEN ran across to the "little, old island" where they stayed for "a minute or two" before heading along the extension. How does that fit into your made-up nonsense?
You waffle on about Sandy Larsen's photo analysis but never provide a link or any kind of hint as to where anyone might find this. It wouldn't surprise me if all this analysis has somehow mysteriously disappeared and, by some miracle, you are the only one who remembers it.

Your opinion is based on a single image.
It is the Sprague image...the image being disputed in this thread.
There is no other image that supports the Sprague image even though there are many versions of the Couch footage. There is no other image that shows the detail in 'Lovelady's' shirt or his bald spot.
I believe you are lying when you suggest their are other images.
I find you lack any kind of credibility.
And that is truly disappointing.

I see no evidence that the Sprague copy has been altered...

This is the Sprague image below.
Do you notice the light square around the two men?
What do you think that is?



How is it that such a poor quality image can provide such amazing detail?


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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #467 on: August 16, 2026, 03:19:53 PM »
O'Meara wrote:

 "This is the Sprague image below.
Do you notice the light square around the two men?
What do you think that is?"


I think it is a technical lightening feature Kamp inserted to emphasize who was being looked at...It has nothing to do with the photographic quality of the Sprague copy...

I believe the plaid pattern could be replicated in either the original Couch Film or 6th Floor Museum copy of Darnell...

Larsen proved the plaid pattern in Lovelady's shirt in Sprague matched the plaid pattern on his shirt in other photos exactly...Larsen, after I told him that proved the timing of when Frazier said he was talking to Stanton on the steps, then went back and deleted his post on The Education Forum showing that match...This is a prime example of the playing field that currently exists on the JFK internet...

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Re: How Did Bart Kamp Create The Lovelady Image?
« Reply #468 on: August 16, 2026, 03:24:17 PM »
O'Meara wrote:

 "This is the Sprague image below.
Do you notice the light square around the two men?
What do you think that is?"



I think it is a technical lightening feature Kamp inserted to emphasize who was being looked at...It has nothing to do with the photographic quality of the Sprague copy...

I believe the plaid pattern could be replicated in either the original Couch Film or 6th Floor Museum copy of Darnell...

Larsen proved the plaid pattern in Lovelady's shirt in Sprague matched the plaid pattern on his shirt in other photos exactly...Larsen, after I told him that proved the timing of when Frazier said he was talking to Stanton on the steps, then went back and deleted his post on The Education Forum showing that match...This is a prime example of the playing field that currently exists on the JFK internet...

      Can you please STOP with the name dropping? These people have NO IDEA who you are.